Ring Magazines 100 greatest punchers.

[Skydog]

I was going to say, I could post my earlier reply again in hopes of clearing up the fact that it isn't just about power.

Tyson should be a little higher, as he had frightenly accurate combinations. He did get a little careless, however, when his opponents were reeling.

Foreman just clobbered to-and-fro without much grace or form.

Frazier's right hand was slightly limp, and often used as a decoy to move people towards his left. He had a beautiful left, which is why he's in a good spot on the list.

Rocky Marciano had about the most textbook stance after a strong right hand. You could model the WBA logo after that position.

Sugar Ray Robinson was a punching dynamo!

Joe Louis was also a near-perfect puncher.

All-in-all, it's a decent list. One last note: IT'S NOT THE 100 HARDEST PUNCHERS!! People need to stop coming on here and saying who hits harder than who.

Frazier vs. Stander, Mathis, Machen, Chuvalo, and Quarry is all proof that Frazier does not have a weak right. Nearly all the commentators say he has an extremely powerful straight right, and when he fought Mathis, he had 9 KO's with a straight right, 9 with a left hook.

[Brassangel]

While this is something often pointed out, I must concede that Joe Frazier did have a decent right hand. It was Joe, himself, who said that he felt he almost didn't need it out there. In his training manual (and autobiography), he said, "I used it (my right) as a parrying tool to push people towards my left side. My right eye started going bad also, which made it harder to use that hand as time went on."

What a critic thinks about a person doesn't say much compared to what a person knows about themselves. Nonetheless, read my Frazier vs. Holyfield fight; I give plenty of credit to his right hand.

[Brassangel]

In regards to my earlier comment about Bruce Lee:

Bruce Lee gave several demonstrations at gymnasiums and martial arts academies where he punched people who were 80-100 pounds heavier than himself, while holding a body pad (weighing 60+ punds), and he knocked them back an average of ten feet. He could also punch without a wind up or a swing and knock people out who were heavier than himself. The man knew the mechanics of power distribution, timing, and speed. In terms of raw power, there were probably many others above him. Knowing how to use it most efficiently...there's no one in his class. Bruce Lee is a rare exception to the rule that heavier people generate more raw punching power per class (ie: heavyweights hit harder than lightweights, etc.).

Since this thread was not about the hardest or even the most devastating punchers, I felt that it was safe to make this small, if insignificant statement. This is a salad bowl of punching categories, much like Guitar magazines will rate the "best" players on a number of different categories.

[Skydog]

While this is something often pointed out, I must concede that Joe Frazier did have a decent right hand. It was Joe, himself, who said that he felt he almost didn't need it out there. In his training manual (and autobiography), he said, "I used it (my right) as a parrying tool to push people towards my left side. My right eye started going bad also, which made it harder to use that hand as time went on."

What a critic thinks about a person doesn't say much compared to what a person knows about themselves. Nonetheless, read my Frazier vs. Holyfield fight; I give plenty of credit to his right hand.

I know, I saw your prediction, and it was great! But, no matter what Joe said, he could really lay the smackdown with that right hand. I can send you Frazier vs. Stander, where he turns Stander into a zombie with a single right uppercut.

[BKM-]

That list is kinda ****ed up regarding Tyson. IMO he's the best and one of the hardest punchers ever. Look at the 80s Tyson were his punches were so perfect and devastating. He blew his punching ability because he lifted heavy weights. Remember the Buster Mathis, Jr fight? ''Tyson misses, and he misses another one and another one!!!!)

[jabsRstiff]

That list is kinda ****ed up regarding Tyson. IMO he's the best and one of the hardest punchers ever. Look at the 80s Tyson were his punches were so perfect and devastating. He blew his punching ability because he lifted heavy weights. Remember the Buster Mathis, Jr fight? ''Tyson misses, and he misses another one and another one!!!!)

Tyson was rated above.....


Julian Jackson, Pipino Cuevas, Thomas Hearns, Bob Foster, Carlos Zarate...

They all should have been higher than he was, IMO.

[butterfly1964]

That list is kinda ****ed up regarding Tyson. IMO he's the best and one of the hardest punchers ever. Look at the 80s Tyson were his punches were so perfect and devastating. He blew his punching ability because he lifted heavy weights. Remember the Buster Mathis, Jr fight? ''Tyson misses, and he misses another one and another one!!!!)

he's the best at quitting to any fighter who fought back.

[BKM-]

he's the best at quitting to any fighter who fought back.

When did he quit? Tell me that. Mcbride and who else? He lost 5 other fights. None of those were quitting you idiot. Why did you go offtopic anyway? Like do you have anything to defend against Tyson's punching?

[moondog0]

It did'nt seem to effect Holyfield? Tyson could hit when he came up, but also threw a barrage of very effective combinations, people were very intimidated by his speed and quick punching ability

[BKM-]

He Didn't hit Evander headbuttfield. He hit him but he didn't HIT him.