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  • #11
    Originally posted by blockhead
    so, that doesnt mean floyd could. floyd was really good but i just see him getting hurt badly if this would have happened. marciano was just vicious. he went in there and hurt people. he didnt box he punched and hard. and nobody hurt him.
    People like to say this about Rocky and ignore the fact that...

    Keene Simmons nearly knocked him out in the fifth round of their fight. Rocky was stunned and staggering around the ring. Simmons wasn't known for his power, by the way.

    Joe Louis' stunned Rocky badly in their fight.

    Jersey Joe Walcott dropped Marciano, stunned him so badly that he nearly collapsed and buckled his knees with body punches.

    You can say what you want, but he got up on shaky legs after his knockdown at the hands of Moore.

    I'm not nitpicking. I really like The Rock. I'm just saying that Rocky could definitely be hurt. It was his ability to survive that was unquestionable.

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    • #12
      This wouldn't go the distance, Rocky KO's him before the 9th.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Imira
        People like to say this about Rocky and ignore the fact that...

        Keene Simmons nearly knocked him out in the fifth round of their fight. Rocky was stunned and staggering around the ring. Simmons wasn't known for his power, by the way.

        Joe Louis' stunned Rocky badly in their fight.

        Jersey Joe Walcott dropped Marciano, stunned him so badly that he nearly collapsed and buckled his knees with body punches.

        You can say what you want, but he got up on shaky legs after his knockdown at the hands of Moore.

        I'm not nitpicking. I really like The Rock. I'm just saying that Rocky could definitely be hurt. It was his ability to survive that was unquestionable.
        good post. good karma for you.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by butterfly1964
          let me clue you in on something. in 1955, marciano fought archie moore and moore floored him in the second round and gave him trouble the whole fight, and it took 8 rounds and 5 knockdowns to finish moore. a year later moore fought patterson and was obliterated in 5. how do you explain that?
          **Kid you're clueless. Not many take the kind of beating Rocky gave out to continue their careers.

          Patterson was dispatched by Ingo and and Liston. Rocky would dispatch him too. LaStarza did not last the distance the 2nd go round in the title fight. Rocky was 7-0, 6 KO in title fights. Charles managed to last the distance in their rematch, but he had a better style than Patterson to fight Rocky.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by LondonRingRules
            ...Charles managed to last the distance in their rematch, but he had a better style than Patterson to fight Rocky.
            Agree with you, LRR. I think it was the throat punch in the middle rounds that took a lot of steam out of Charles in their first fight.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by LondonRingRules
              **Kid you're clueless. Not many take the kind of beating Rocky gave out to continue their careers.

              Patterson was dispatched by Ingo and and Liston. Rocky would dispatch him too. LaStarza did not last the distance the 2nd go round in the title fight. Rocky was 7-0, 6 KO in title fights. Charles managed to last the distance in their rematch, but he had a better style than Patterson to fight Rocky.
              i'm not saying patterson would definetely beat rocky, i'm just saying it's a possibility. and you can't compare liston to marciano. liston is arguably in the top three of hardest hitters ever.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Imira
                People like to say this about Rocky and ignore the fact that...

                Keene Simmons nearly knocked him out in the fifth round of their fight. Rocky was stunned and staggering around the ring. Simmons wasn't known for his power, by the way.

                Joe Louis' stunned Rocky badly in their fight.

                Jersey Joe Walcott dropped Marciano, stunned him so badly that he nearly collapsed and buckled his knees with body punches.

                You can say what you want, but he got up on shaky legs after his knockdown at the hands of Moore.

                I'm not nitpicking. I really like The Rock. I'm just saying that Rocky could definitely be hurt. It was his ability to survive that was unquestionable.
                good point, he was never hurt to the point of giving in and being beat. he always seemed to come on harder after going down.
                he suffered some early knockdown and then came back to be very frustrating and punishing.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by butterfly1964
                  let me clue you in on something. in 1955, marciano fought archie moore and moore floored him in the second round and gave him trouble the whole fight, and it took 8 rounds and 5 knockdowns to finish moore. a year later moore fought patterson and was obliterated in 5. how do you explain that?
                  archie moore was an old light heavyweight. and a great great fighter. if there were as many weight divisions in moores day as there are now. he would definately be one of the most talked about fighters on this forum.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by blockhead
                    ...he was never hurt to the point of giving in and being beat.
                    So, you're saying he's undefeated.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by blockhead
                      archie moore was an old light heavyweight. and a great great fighter. if there were as many weight divisions in moores day as there are now. he would definately be one of the most talked about fighters on this forum.
                      but he was old against marciano too. the way i see it, the moore that fought marciano was basically the same moore that fought patterwson, cause it was one year apart, probably less. and patterson was given less trouble.

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