is p4p ratings really necessary?

[AntonTheMeh]

sorry to bump an old thread but i'd like to see more opinions on this.

[Jim Jeffries]

I think the whole P4P thing is just for the smaller class champions that don't have what it takes to take out a bigger guy. Pure BS, Ive seen Welterweights that hit harder than Heavyweights, and Ive seen lightweights that were stronger than Heavyweights (Joe Frazier to Shane Mosely). All a matter of God given talents IMO. Some got it, the rest don't.(I have also seen Smaller weights come in the night of the fight weighing as much as heavyweights )

Are you saying Mosley at lightweight was stonger than Joe Frazier?

[Hawkins]

I don't think they are a necessity, however they do afford you a way to gauge the talents of fighters of different weight classes against one another. I had always heard, and read, they were created in an effort to compare Sugar Ray Robinson against the other great fighters of his time.

I don't know if thats the true origin or not, but it does seem plausible.

[Jim Jeffries]

I'm often confused by p4p rankings. I mean do you rank a guy at the weight he started fighting at or at the weight he most recently fought at? Because obviously Mayweather is better p4p at 130 than he is at 154. And how do you qualify Toney as a p4p just because he started at MW, when the guy weighs like 230 now?

[QueensburyRules]

i mean 130 years ago there were no weight classes, and if you were too small to beat a hw, then too bad. everyone talking 'bout how sugar ray robinson is "p4p" the greatest boxer, but sometimes to me that doesn't make any sense, cause if you think about it, someone like jack dempsey could be p4p better than foreman, but no one would say that because they are in the same weight class. but prime dempsey is like 190 and prime foreman is 225, and that's a 35lb. difference, so that might not sound so foolish to say, 'cause they might as well be in different weight classes, but no one will say that. so p4p rankings to me is just people hating on the heavyweights, cause they are bigger than the others and could whup up on the others. what do you think?

- -The concept of p4p been around since before David fought Goliath.

Sugar Ray the first boxer to be couched in that concept that was really "Who the best fighter is no matter the division.

The whole concept of ratings started with Nat and Tex Rickard, so after Nat's demise, brave sportswriters took the plunge, so now it's just a stock item in the media for marketing purpose.

No Matter, Manny holds all the Ring p4p records and was 2 Alltime to Sugar in the largest international poll ever conducted staged out of Vegas with toll free phone lines.

How 'bout them apples?

[louis54]

Good post with boxing common sense by xion !

[The Old LefHook]

Boxing forums are not necessary either. Neither is perfume.