Spinks would have slapped Marvin around the ring.
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Originally posted by wmute View PostI am enough of a Hagler believer to think he makes it to the end of the fight. The guy's chin was insane
About having his moments... I just do not see what they would look like. By 1984 he would not outbox Spinks, and well size would make it impossible to outgun him.
But for anyone to say it's cut & dry time for Spinks, is just wrong.. A warrior of Hagler's metal simply cannot be written off against any of the great light-heavies and if this particular match ever was mooted, i'd bet a pretty penny that it wasn't due to any reluctance from Hagler as to why it didn't happen.. Ok, Spinks had all the advantages, but even if he were 6'4'' i don't see Marvin shrivelling up like Spinks did against Tyson, and you have to remember, it's not the dog in the fight, but the fight in the dog that counts..
Not saying that Spinks loses, but winning would be far from easy in what i'd predict to be an extra tough distance fight..
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Originally posted by mickey malone View PostI agree with this...
But for anyone to say it's cut & dry time for Spinks, is just wrong.. A warrior of Hagler's metal simply cannot be written off against any of the great light-heavies and if this particular match ever was mooted, i'd bet a pretty penny that it wasn't due to any reluctance from Hagler as to why it didn't happen.. Ok, Spinks had all the advantages, but even if he were 6'4'' i don't see Marvin shrivelling up like Spinks did against Tyson, and you have to remember, it's not the dog in the fight, but the fight in the dog that counts..
Not saying that Spinks loses, but winning would be far from easy in what i'd predict to be an extra tough distance fight..
I don't think Marvin would end up like Spinks with Tyson, but that has little to do with Hagler not being Spinks, ad a lot to do Spinks not being Tyson. Spinks was a guy who won fights no matter what, Tyson a guy who almost got people killed (Spinks >>> Tyson btw, it is just they brought different things to the ring).
Hagler certainly had the freakish skull and endurance to make it to the end of the 15th, but he would be in horrible shape by then.
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Originally posted by wmute View Postwell i hope Hagler's handlers finally got something right and kept him away from Spinks if he was inclined towards that matchup, but I highly doubt he was. It would have been a sure loss on the record at a time in which he was finally about to get all the big names in the ring. Would have been of the dumbest moves ever. Then again we are talking about the same team who gave away gloves, ring and rounds for the Leonard fight... so you never know.
I don't think Marvin would end up like Spinks with Tyson, but that has little to do with Hagler not being Spinks, ad a lot to do Spinks not being Tyson. Spinks was a guy who won fights no matter what, Tyson a guy who almost got people killed (Spinks >>> Tyson btw, it is just they brought different things to the ring).
Hagler certainly had the freakish skull and endurance to make it to the end of the 15th, but he would be in horrible shape by then.
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Originally posted by Barnburner View PostDid you think Leonard had a chance for the Hagler fight?
1) I was 9yo.
2) I was the biggest Hagler fan in a few miles radius.
3) At the time I thought the Mugabi fight was a great performance showcasing the best possible Marvin (destruct and destroy is a powerful mantra for a 9yo...)
4) I was not even aware you could pick gloves and ring, and i thought rounds didn't matter.
you draw your conclusions...
Looking back I would give Leonard some chance, but at the end of the day, no one could foresee Hagler throwing away the first few rounds like that, which is ultimately what won Leonard the fight.
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Originally posted by 80schamps View PostHere's one for yas,how would hagler have done,moving up and facing a larger stronger more filled out Hearns.
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Originally posted by wmute View PostWell, to be honest. Spinks is a lot more than that. If compared to the Hitman, Spinks hits only slightly less harder (in a p4p sense, and much harder in real terms), much better chin and stamina, and what's important, an incomparably higher boxing IQ.
Michael Spinks is widely believed to be one of the best light heavyweights ever, possibly top 5. Hearns above super middleweight doesn't come close.
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