Vintage... Pavlik?

[rsf]

i dont know dude, did i?


if this is the extent of the contributions you'll be making to the thread i'll be glad when you are done contributing

terrific action fighter well ok , but i would sum it up a bit different probably a predictable fighter with a leaky defence with a very good right hand and not great footwork but i must admit a big heart. that if fighting a better champion would not of got his hands on the world tittle belt. world champions like minter and antuofermo would of beaten pavlik in my opinion and as much as i like minter i will admit he was not a top notch champion. even going further back to a little mentioned tittle holder like billy soose would of given pavlik a shellacking . this of course is purely my own humble opinion which i fully expect you to disagree with . but if we all agreed these forums would be very boring

a very exciting fantasy match up which pavlik would of won would be against mark kaylor a fighter that could **** with not a great defence and average footwork that liked to go war. pavlik having the better chin and the edge in power would win a wild one by stoppage

[nomadman]

terrific action fighter well ok , but i would sum it up a bit different probably a predictable fighter with a leaky defence with a very good right hand and not great footwork but i must admit a big heart. that if fighting a better champion would not of got his hands on the world tittle belt. world champions like minter and antuofermo would of beaten pavlik in my opinion and as much as i like minter i will admit he was not a top notch champion. even going further back to a little mentioned tittle holder like billy soose would of given pavlik a shellacking . this of course is purely my own humble opinion which i fully expect you to disagree with . but if we all agreed these forums would be very boring

Pav's footwork I thought was actually pretty good. He was always in a position to get maximum leverage on his shots, closed distance well, never lunged forward or seemed very off balance unless he was hurt. For what he was, a come forward pressure fighter, I can't really see how his footwork had too many flaws.

[rsf]

personally i found him quite slow on his feet

[nomadman]

Slow yes, but not necessarily bad.

[rsf]

Slow yes, but not necessarily bad.

i think i put not great and a little further down in my post average

[New England]

terrific action fighter well ok , but i would sum it up a bit different probably a predictable fighter with a leaky defence with a very good right hand and not great footwork but i must admit a big heart. that if fighting a better champion would not of got his hands on the world tittle belt. world champions like minter and antuofermo would of beaten pavlik in my opinion and as much as i like minter i will admit he was not a top notch champion. even going further back to a little mentioned tittle holder like billy soose would of given pavlik a shellacking . this of course is purely my own humble opinion which i fully expect you to disagree with . but if we all agreed these forums would be very boring

a very exciting fantasy match up which pavlik would of won would be against mark kaylor a fighter that could **** with not a great defence and average footwork that liked to go war. pavlik having the better chin and the edge in power would win a wild one by stoppage

hmm
well actually i'd pick antuofermo to win (if his grill held up)
as well as minter if his chin holds up

not incredibly familliar with billy soose but i've seen him in passing
he fought some incredible fighters and stayed on his feet, so i dont doubt he would give pavlik problems.


dont get me wrong, dude

pavlik is not a historic level MW at any rate

he's half of a terrific fight, though.

[Ray Corso]

This young man took advantage of his opportunity and did very well. He was a great competitor and came to fight and thats what fans want!
I couldn't use the term "great" as far as his abilities but not being a great fighter doesn't mean you can't be in great fights. I'm sorry to hear he has lost respect for himself, being a pro fighter has alot a pitfalls and once your boxing life stops theres so many who struggle with closer. I wish him well. Ray

[rsf]

hmm
well actually i'd pick antuofermo to win (if his grill held up)
as well as minter if his chin holds up

not incredibly familliar with billy soose but i've seen him in passing
he fought some incredible fighters and stayed on his feet, so i dont doubt he would give pavlik problems.


dont get me wrong, dude

pavlik is not a historic level MW at any rate

he's half of a terrific fight, though.

soose did have a big punch early in his career but hand trouble made him turn boxer i think he would of been beating pavlik by a wide points margin .


i dont think i read your thread opening post properly

[underoath777]

the wine/hard alcohol analogy is really spot on.

[New England]

soose did have a big punch early in his career but hand trouble made him turn boxer i think he would of been beating pavlik by a wide points margin .


i dont think i read your thread opening post properly

haha that's fine

i thought you were just here to be a smart ass and give me a hard time at the outset