Does anyone on either Klits resume beat Ali?

[Terry A]

I love it!

Murder me if you want but I also see David Haye having a little chance on beating Ali.

Superflo, I'll say this. You're funny in a good sort of way. You also have big balls to even have hovered your finger over the "Submit Reply" button, let alone to send that gem into cyberspace for all to giggle over. That was a breath of fresh air, being able to cause us to laugh like that on an otherwise so-so kinda day. Everything seemed so serious here, then I read that!

Later on, after I log off, I'm going to walk around the house repeating that line quietly to myself. My wife may see me smiling or giggling and ask what the heck is going on. I'll just tell her it was a good afternoon on the boxing threads!

I'm going to send you some Good Karma for being honest with how you feel as well as for being a good sport with the razing you'll not doubt have to endure over picking a guy with an ingrown toenail or turf-toe to beat "The Greatest".

[SBleeder]

not to mention a WW is going to weigh 147 lbs in 1900, 1950, or 2050


and ray robinson is probably going to kick his ass



i will say this, men are getting bigger and stronger and faster on the whole (which means nothing in the weight classes,)

and so far that hasn't made for better boxers at HW, where that sort of trend would matter

Bigger and stronger = Slower and more easily fatigued.

Primo Carnera was faster than most modern heavyweights.

[New England]

Boxers

Fighters eat and train the same way they did a half-century ago.

not to mention a WW is going to weigh 147 lbs in 1900, 1950, or 2050


and ray robinson is probably going to kick his ass



i will say this, men are getting bigger and stronger and faster on the whole (which means nothing in the weight classes,)

and so far that hasn't made for better boxers at HW, where that sort of trend would matter

[SBleeder]

Boxers

You're wrong about that. The athletic, nutritional and strength advancements since the 1970s are just huge, for all sports.

Fighters eat and train the same way they did a half-century ago.

[Joeyzagz]

I do not include the images since they are annoying. nuff said on that.

Yeah... its kinda annoying that Lennox beat Klitschko, Bowe, Tyson and Evander. Why did he have to beat his 4 best contemporaies ? WTF is his problem?

Doesnt he understand that he has to lose to his successor like Joe Louis and Ali did? Damn him!!!

[Weebler I]

Lewis doesn't beat Ali. I know the people saying this are just noob posters like I was a few years back.

I'd give Lewis a chance, esp vs the comeback version, but Ali def beats him in my book 8/10.

What does Lewis have? He got a draw/ and ud against an aging Holyfield, had an ugly fight with Vitali at the end of his career (although it looked like he would have beat him more legit had he been younger).

Then there is his overated jab. I want to say underated punching power. Only thing is Lewis didn't look for a KO, he boxed. He could hit though 100%.

people who weren't born in the 70's think there is a massive advancement as the years have gone by, but really it's a much slower process than people think.

slap some brand new grants on Ali, some bigger trunks, he'd look ace. Esp with some better strength conditioning.

You're wrong about that. The athletic, nutritional and strength advancements since the 1970s are just huge, for all sports.

[SirTomJones]

Lennox Lewis could have beaten Ali

[young_robbed]

Why not include my pics in your quote? Does it destroy your resume argument that badly?

Marciano never beat a big fighter EVER, and Louis, Johnson Liston all have unavenged losses. Lennox defeated everyone he faced.

I do not include the images since they are annoying. nuff said on that.

I can say the same thing about Lewis. Lewis never beat a fighter similar to Marciano. Furthermore Unavenged losses don't mean much considering who they lost to. Lewis lost to McCall and Rahman, it would be pretty embarrassing if he never avenged those.
Liston only has losses when he was past his prime and when he was green. Louis has losses against Marciano and Charles, both of which were when he was way past his best. His only loss when he was in his prime was against Schmelling, and he avenged that in brutal fashion.
Johnson fought in a totally different environment compared to Lewis, so you can't really compare their wins and losses in the first place.

[NChristo]

And Solis deserves a mention. I don't really think we've seen what level he's at yet, given the way that the Vitali fight ended and limited comp leading up. He might have some untapped potential, even if he never drops below 145.

We saw his potential and talent in the amateurs and we'll never see that Solis again, he had all the talent to become a threat too the Klits and have some standing but he threw it away for another burger.

[Cardinal Buck]

I'd put old Lewis around pick-em versus post-exile Ali.

At the tail end of his reign, I think it's unlikely that Ali would get through Chambers, Iggy, Haye, Byrd, Sanders, Chagaev, Solis, Gomez and Thompson in succession. Statistically, it's unlikely because each guy would have some chance of winning, some greater than others.

If Young almost beat Ali, I don't see why Bryd wouldn't perform at least as well.

And Solis deserves a mention. I don't really think we've seen what level he's at yet, given the way that the Vitali fight ended and limited comp leading up. He might have some untapped potential, even if he never drops below 145.