Rocky Marciano > Mayweather. Resume' wise he defeated #4, #13, and #14 on the list. However, it is not just the resume' that makes him higher than Floyd. Marciano is truly a transcendent fighter of the sport at a time when boxing was a Major Sport in America and abroad. ESPN ranked him #51 greatest athletes, not just boxing, of the last century. He is a legend, and that's more pervasive than record or skills.
The problem with Floyd is that he isn't a "Transcendent" figure in Sports or outside boxing, yet. He has the skills to be in the top 10 or even GOAT. However, he hasn't done anything to inspire the masses(the public). Maybe after he retires he'll be appreciated more.
i like the post and am in agreement until the part about floyd having the potential to be the GOAT. his resume requires too WAY much work. he'd be fighting into his forties.
are you talking about the "best" fighter ever?
and not the most accomplished?
ray robinson had every bit of talent that floyd has
the speed
the reflexes. the timing.
he also had a cast iron chin (and floyd has been exposed as simply having a "good" but not great chin)
and he was a knockout puncher
a bonafide knockout puncher
to play floyds game you've got to outbox your opponent to win
you either need to build a lead
or you need to keep your opponent from building an insurmountable lead on you, because you aren't likely to stop a man
those are floyds limitations in terms of his talent
he's not a finisher. it's horribly limiting in terms of your outlook on the fight and the means by which you have to go about winning it.
you cant come back from a deep enough hole
you have to win on points.
he couldnt stop juan manuel marquez (who, as good as he is, has no business finishing a fight with a guy who claims to be an ATG of floyds size.)
so in terms of accomplishments and h2h favorability p4p floyd is still seriously lacking.
and i do think that a more active schedule would help his star rise even more. as it is he's a recognizable character in the sports world and a serious draw, if not a bonafide superstar a la Lebron james.
if he fights pacquiao and looks spectacular in victory he will be one of the "hottest" contemporary athletes in the states, at least until his next fight (provided he doesn't take too much time in between)
he's a hell of a boxer
i'll give him that all day. there arent many in history with his level of craft and polish.
but he's not as accomplished, adored, or frankly as damn good as some of the greatest in the history of the sport
nobody here would rank floyd above Pernell Whitaker ?
I wouldn't. Just discussed this with someone the other day. Floyd doesn't rate ahead of Pernell or Roy in my mind. Real simple: they beat better fighters than him so far.
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