Best chin in Heavyweight ever.

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  • ricecrispi
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    #121
    I don't care about the commits. He's got his opinion and I got mine opinion and he makes a very good point.

    Chuvalo is one tough SOB. Chuvalo was clocked clean and no man could take those shots. In the Foreman fight, when Ali got hit he had to change his strategy. He knew he was in deep water and even told his corner Foreman was too strong and he didn't know what to do. He had to go to war and quit the dancing and prancing. Ali was smart and covered up otherwise he would met the same fate.

    What about David Tua. Had Tua ever been knocked out or down or hurt? I think we make a bigger deal out of Tua man. I don't follow up on him.

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    • SonnyG8R
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      #122
      Originally posted by ricecrispi
      I don't care about the commits. He's got his opinion and I got mine opinion and he makes a very good point.

      Chuvalo is one tough SOB. Chuvalo was clocked clean and no man could take those shots. In the Foreman fight, when Ali got hit he had to change his strategy. He knew he was in deep water and even told his corner Foreman was too strong and he didn't know what to do. He had to go to war and quit the dancing and prancing. Ali was smart and covered up otherwise he would met the same fate.

      What about David Tua. Had Tua ever been knocked out or down or hurt? I think we make a bigger deal out of Tua man. I don't follow up on him.
      There called comments not "commits". And I hope you don't get the impression that I am trying to ride your jock or something. You simply made a point I was going to make but rather than restate the same thing I commented on your quote. I also approved of what you wrote in the "George Foreman, the Man who made the man" thread. But don't worry I won't "commit" on it.

      The bottom line is that we don't know who had the greatest chin of all time and there is no way to know for certain. We all have our opinions and debating them is what makes these boards fun.

      I think kid achilles has a pretty decent store of boxing knowledge. I took his side in a debate regarding Rocky Marciano. My only issue with him is that he seems to think that his opinions are hard facts that cannot be debated. Jose has that same problem. If he would get off his high horse I wouldn't have any beef whatsoever.

      Ali fought the greatest opposition of any man in history in my opinion. He may have been down but he was never ktfo and he never had to be saved by the ref except for against larry holmes when he was well past his prime. Being down and coming back to win is indeed a sign of a great chin in my opinion.

      If you disagree with me that's fine but show some respect and don't act like a know-it-all whose opinion can never be questioned.

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      • Kid Achilles
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        #123
        Rereading some of my posts, I can see that the attitude I took with you was inappropriate. I usually try to remain open-minded to all reasonable opinions (obvious exceptions being that the other guy is obviously trolling or has just insulted me), but I must admit that my attitude was partially due to your behavior in another thread which is not even perinent to the topic at hand, or really much of my business.

        I still disagree with you about this silly chin argument, but I apologize for the tone I took in arguing with you.

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        • ricecrispi
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          #124
          I would like to "commit", ahem, comment on that. I got bad fingers so excuse the typing. I like when people express thmeselves because these what these are for. It's all words and opinions, but I know a lot of people online would get their panties in a wad.

          I think Ali was tough and determined. His knockdowns are because of Ali being off balance or getting hit by the right punch at the right time. Definitely a great chin but not the best since he did get rocked man times. Ali is easily the most determined champ that's why I think he got up and how he could take so much punishment.

          Back to David Tua. My friend said the guy has never been knock down in his memory and possibly not even hurt. I think everyone forgot anout Tua because he's disappeared from the scene. The guy could be champ, all he has to do is fight Ruiz again.
          Last edited by ricecrispi; 06-12-2005, 06:15 PM.

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          • thatruth830
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            #125
            marciano's opponets could never compare to ali's am i right?

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            • thatruth830
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              #126
              cambria theres a bunch of fighters who could of went undefeated in marciano and dempsey's time tyson, ali, holmes, frazier, liston, foreman, holy and louis. Lets be serious u cant nominate them for best HW chin ever. who have they been hit by? and think if that person can hit like some of the guys i just listed......... i came up wit no one but im sure you'll give me an answer right?

              p.s. the rock got knocked out by someone who cant compare to a tyson or a foreman punch

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              • dmar
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                #127
                Originally posted by Great
                Best chin in Heavyweight ever - ???
                a hard 1.marciano chuvalo tommy gibbons are a few that come to mind ...fast

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                • Imira
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                  #128
                  Joe Grimm. Nobody could KO that fool! (I know, he got KOd 3 times when he was past his prime, but his chin was his only claim to fame)
                  Chuvalo and Ali get a nod from me.

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                  • abright1
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                    #129
                    Can't believe nobody here's mentioned Ray Mercer.

                    He and George Chuvalo deserve special mention in this department, but Ray a hell of a better all-round package.

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                    • mosley
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                      #130
                      [QUOTE="Chups"]Chuvalo........never been down[/QUOTE


                      I have to agree.

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