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"What's my name?" Ernie terrel got what he deserved from Muhammad Ali

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  • #81
    Originally posted by Dempsey 1919 View Post
    When Ali pummeled Ernie Terrel into submission in 1967, the press was attacking Ali for what he did. And in addition to the whole Vietnam thing, Ali was made out to be some kind of heartless monster.

    But the fact is that before the fight Terrel refused to call Ali by his name. He insisted on calling him Cassius Clay, when in fact most people called him by his newly acquired ****** name. Even the fightcards called him Ali! What Terrel did was wrong, and he disrespected and humiliated not only Ali, but all ******s. Ali afterwards told him and the press that he was going to punish him mercilessly and make him say his real name. In that case, criticizing him after the fight doesn't make sense, since he said he was going to do it anyway. What the press should have been talking about was the multiple fouls Terrel committed during the fight. He was hitting him behind the head (rabbit punching), holding him and hitting him at the same time, and hitting him on the break all illegal and subject to the deduction of points. In and interview with Howard Cosell on ABC not long after the fight, Muhammad Ali apologized for talking to Terrel throughout the fight, and saying "what's my name" then hitting him. However he said he did it so Terrel and other people would respect his religious beliefs. Terrel ended up saying "Muhammad Ali", and rightfully so.

    The bottom line is that Ernie Terrel got what was coming to him in my opinion. What do you think?
    Count me in as somebody who is not sympathetic towards Terrell in that situation. If you get personal with your opponent you can't complain or seek sympathy when that opponent punishes you in the ring. That's what boxing is all about.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
      Red Ked, reported, and ignored.

      Poet
      LOL I think that covers everything.
      Last edited by Calilloyd; 03-10-2010, 04:08 PM.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by £Hank$Moody€ View Post
        Remind me why Terrel was required to call Clay some name he made up for himself again?
        Ali legally changed his name to Muhammad Ali. He didn't "make it up". There is a meaning behind the name. Educate yourself.
        Last edited by Calilloyd; 03-10-2010, 04:09 PM.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Dempsey 1919 View Post
          .
          I know you hate Ali because everyone thinks he would beat Tyson Yaman, but don't hate the player, hate the game.
          i really doubt if ali could beat tyson , or even marciano.
          tyson would have hit him bad.
          also , ali was quite a dirty fighter himself with the holding and hitting and rabbit punches , holding behind the head , etc , maybe he is one of hopkins' examples of how to fight.
          and also the ropes were very loose indeed in the foreman fight and ali did use to the max. who knows what would have happened if it wasn't the case.
          i think foreman had a good chance of stopping ali without the ropes being loose.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Frazier's 15th round View Post
            Frazier would pin that dancing fairy on the ropes and beat the hell out of him. 60's Ali threw nothing but pitty pat punches.
            bonavena couldn't , he was badly stopped instead , and ali had too many stoppage wins in the 60's to claim such a thing.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
              i really doubt if ali could beat tyson , or even marciano.
              tyson would have hit him bad.
              also , ali was quite a dirty fighter himself with the holding and hitting and rabbit punches , holding behind the head , etc , maybe he is one of hopkins' examples of how to fight.
              and also the ropes were very loose indeed in the foreman fight and ali did use to the max. who knows what would have happened if it wasn't the case.
              i think foreman had a good chance of stopping ali without the ropes being loose.
              You're a spastic: Go away

              Poet

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post
                Ali legally changed his name to Muhammad Ali. He didn't "make it up". There is a meaning behind the name. Educate yourself.
                You could legally change your name to Joe Moron for all I care, doesn't mean I have to call you that. Though I might call you by your surname by accident.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post
                  Ali legally changed his name to Muhammad Ali. He didn't "make it up". There is a meaning behind the name. Educate yourself.
                  Terrel knew Ali when he was still calling himself Cassius Clay, he said, he said it by accident. Cassius was named after the famous firebrand Abolitionist, Ali should of been proud of that name. Whats so great about taking on a Arab name anyway, didnt he know about the Arab slave trade?
                  Last edited by Toney616; 03-12-2010, 01:53 PM.

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                  • #89
                    yes he deserved it.

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