"What's my name?" Ernie terrel got what he deserved from Muhammad Ali

[American_Ninja]

This was definitely not the only time Ali was playing mind games with his opponent. Before the first fight with Sonny Liston, Cassius Clay (as he was then known) labelled him a "big ugly bear". Clay even drove to Liston's house in the middle of the night and set a "bear trap" on the lawn, challenging him to take him on right there. This enraged Liston and he promised to drive his fist down Clay's throat.

Even more amusing was the weigh-in. Clay screamed at Liston "I'm the champ and you're the tramp!" He then lunged at Liston like he was going to attack him. Everyone thought Clay was crazy, but the doctors that inspected him revealed his pulse was fine. Clay had Sonny believing that he was crazy and completely psyched him out. Obviously the result of the fight was further proof of this, as Liston refused to come out for the 7th round. That was Ali at his finest! Like his tactics or not, they proved successful.

Liston also pulled a gun and started shooting at Ali, the joke was on Ali, the gun had blanks in it..

[butterfly1964]

Liston also pulled a gun and started shooting at Ali, the joke was on Ali, the gun had blanks in it..

I remember that.

[brownpimp88]

When Ali pummeled Ernie Terrel into submission in 1967, the press was attacking Ali for what he did. And in addition to the whole Vietnam thing, Ali was made out to be some kind of heartless monster.

But the fact is that before the fight Terrel refused to call Ali by his name. He insisted on calling him Cassius Clay, when in fact most people called him by his newly acquired ****** name. Even the fightcards called him Ali! What Terrel did was wrong, and he disrespected and humiliated not only Ali, but all ******s. Ali afterwards told him and the press that he was going to punish him mercilessly and make him say his real name. In that case, criticizing him after the fight doesn't make sense, since he said he was going to do it anyway. What the press should have been talking about was the multiple fouls Terrel committed during the fight. He was hitting him behind the head (rabbit punching), holding him and hitting him at the same time, and hitting him on the break all illegal and subject to the deduction of points. In and interview with Howard Cosell on ABC not long after the fight, Muhammad Ali apologized for talking to Terrel throughout the fight, and saying "what's my name" then hitting him. However he said he did it so Terrel and other people would respect his religious beliefs. Terrel ended up saying "Muhammad Ali", and rightfully so.

The bottom line is that Ernie Terrel got what was coming to him in my opinion. What do you think?

Lol, why do u always make it sound like all of his opponents were bad guys and ali is this nice angel. That is far from the truth, ali had plenty of demons inside of him, he aint this little angel nowdays that the media tries to portray him as.

[butterfly1964]

Lol, why do u always make it sound like all of his opponents were bad guys and ali is this nice angel. That is far from the truth, ali had plenty of demons inside of him, he aint this little angel nowdays that the media tries to portray him as.

I'm just stating the facts, buddy.

[BKM-]

Funny that the one person he could beat on relentlessly for calling him Clay, was a guy that had no chance in the first place. I wonder how it would of gone if Frazier or Norton called him Clay, yeah just play Ali's dirty little mind game too. Haha, say ''whats my name'' to Frazier and get a Left Hook that drops you. Say ''whats my name'' to Norton and get your jaw broken. This is one of the most annoying things in Boxing, Ali RELYING on mind games to win, if he was the ''greatest'', why didn't he just go out there like Louis, and prove it without using a ****** gimmick from a Wrestler. What im saying is that either Ali was an ******* to his fighters, or he had to rely on mind games to win. And this is something you can't give a fact on, fanboy.

[Southpaw Stinger]

Funny that the one person he could beat on relentlessly for calling him Clay, was a guy that had no chance in the first place. I wonder how it would of gone if Frazier or Norton called him Clay, yeah just play Ali's dirty little mind game too. Haha, say ''whats my name'' to Frazier and get a Left Hook that drops you. Say ''whats my name'' to Norton and get your jaw broken. This is one of the most annoying things in Boxing, Ali RELYING on mind games to win, if he was the ''greatest'', why didn't he just go out there like Louis, and prove it without using a ****** gimmick from a Wrestler. What im saying is that either Ali was an ******* to his fighters, or he had to rely on mind games to win. And this is something you can't give a fact on, fanboy.

You've got to give a little love
take a litte love
Be prepared to forsake a little love
and when the sun comes shining through
we'll know what to do.....

sorry about the Bay City Roller terminology but you really do need to learn to love.

[SABBATH]

Funny that the one person he could beat on relentlessly for calling him Clay, was a guy that had no chance in the first place. I wonder how it would of gone if Frazier or Norton called him Clay, yeah just play Ali's dirty little mind game too. Haha, say ''whats my name'' to Frazier and get a Left Hook that drops you. Say ''whats my name'' to Norton and get your jaw broken. This is one of the most annoying things in Boxing, Ali RELYING on mind games to win, if he was the ''greatest'', why didn't he just go out there like Louis, and prove it without using a ****** gimmick from a Wrestler. What im saying is that either Ali was an ******* to his fighters, or he had to rely on mind games to win. And this is something you can't give a fact on, fanboy.

Frazier almost always called Ali by the name Clay. Ali for his part relentlessly taunted Frazier both in and out of the ring as well as face to face outside the ring which led to a scuffle in the studios of Wide World of Sports. Ali called Frazier dumb, ugly, ignorant, an Uncle Tom, a gorilla etc...and continued the trash talk in the ring.

Ali knew Norton from 1971 when they had sparred together and their was never any legitimate animosity between the two fighters and no cause or motivation to trash talk.

Psychological warfare is part of sports none more so than boxing. Sonny Liston used to put towels under his robe to make his shoulders look even wider and Mike Tyson not wearing a robe was his way of trying to psych out an opponent.

An intelligent athlete uses every tool at his disposal.

[butterfly1964]

Funny that the one person he could beat on relentlessly for calling him Clay, was a guy that had no chance in the first place. I wonder how it would of gone if Frazier or Norton called him Clay, yeah just play Ali's dirty little mind game too. Haha, say ''whats my name'' to Frazier and get a Left Hook that drops you. Say ''whats my name'' to Norton and get your jaw broken. This is one of the most annoying things in Boxing, Ali RELYING on mind games to win, if he was the ''greatest'', why didn't he just go out there like Louis, and prove it without using a ****** gimmick from a Wrestler. What im saying is that either Ali was an ******* to his fighters, or he had to rely on mind games to win. And this is something you can't give a fact on, fanboy.

Really idiot? Now you say he had no chance, but in 1966, everyone was talking about how Terrell could beat him, and even Terrell was mouthing off saying that Ali was afraid of him. Many people even said that Terrell had a better jab than Ali. I don't remember what the gate for that fight was, but it was huge. Well, you know what happened when they got into the ring, now didn't you?

Anyway, I wonder what would happen if Frazier and Norton couldn't take advantage of a rusty, depleted Ali and had to have fought Ali in his prime? They would have been in for a long night, especilly Norton.

Ali was an "*******" because they were the *******s first. If Terrell wasn't calling him Clay, then the whole thing wouldn't have happened. You can blame Terrell for the whole predicament.

I know you hate Ali because everyone thinks he would beat Tyson Yaman, but don't hate the player, hate the game.

[butterfly1964]

Frazier almost always called Ali by the name Clay. Ali for his part relentlessly taunted Frazier both in and out of the ring as well as face to face outside the ring which led to a scuffle in the studios of Wide World of Sports. Ali called Frazier dumb, ugly, ignorant, an Uncle Tom, a gorilla etc...and continued the trash talk in the ring.

Ali knew Norton from 1971 when they had sparred together and their was never any legitimate animosity between the two fighters and no cause or motivation to trash talk.

Psychological warfare is part of sports none more so than boxing. Sonny Liston used to put towels under his robe to make his shoulders look even wider and Mike Tyson not wearing a robe was his way of trying to psych out an opponent.

An intelligent athlete uses every tool at his disposal.

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[Frazier's 15th round]

Anyway, I wonder what would happen if Frazier and Norton couldn't take advantage of a rusty, depleted Ali and had to have fought Ali in his prime? They would have been in for a long night, especilly Norton.

Frazier would pin that dancing fairy on the ropes and beat the hell out of him. 60's Ali threw nothing but pitty pat punches.