James Toney talks Manny Steward

[Toney616]

TONEY: They’re not fighting! They’re taking pictures, and trying to find an opening here and there, and getting outpointed by that weak-ass jab that they got, or what they so-call a jab. They’re not great fighters. I mean their trainer sucks! Emanuel Steward is a half-assed trainer. Emanuel Steward is supposed to train like me. Emanuel Steward knows why he doesn’t want them to fight me. It was the same thing I did to all the fighters he had in the Kronk Gym all these years—kill, crush, destroy!

JENNA: Alright, I got to stop you there James. You’re saying Emanuel Steward isn’t that great of a trainer?

TONEY: You heard what I said! Let me tell you something. All the fighters he trained will confirm it and I know for a fact, the only thing Emanuel ever did in his whole career was come in the last week before a fight after he had Walter Smith, Bill Miller, and everybody else doing all the training camps for the whole eight or nine weeks. The last week Emanuel comes in when the camera is on him and he does mitts with him and says he did something. Man that’s bull****! If he was training he would be with them day and night. He’s doing it now because of with Klitschko over there, he’s kissing his ass. He’s an ass-kisser. He’s an Uncle Tom. You can tell him I said it, too. I don’t care.

JENNA: You’re entitled to your opinion like everyone else.

TONEY: Oh yeah! I am entitled to my opinion and I hope everybody is listening because what I’m speaking is the truth. I speak the truth, and nothing but the truth because the truth sets you free, period! I see you’re an Emanuel Steward fan, huh?

JENNA: We have him on quite often and I believe he’s a great trainer. He’s trained so many world champions—

TONEY: Anybody can come in the last minute and train somebody and come in and take the lead the last week and take credit for it. You don’t see him making champions like Freddie Roach.

JENNA: What about Tommy Hearns? He trained Tommy Hearns from the amateurs.

TONEY: No, no, no, no! That’s my trainer. Bill Miller was the original trainer of Tommy Hearns. If you want to bet me on that, we can call up Bill Miller right now! He’s 95 years old and still alive and he’ll tell you the ****ing truth! So look! Let me tell you something! I don’t know how old you are or how long you’ve been in the game, but apparently you’re brand new to this because you don’t know what the **** you’re talking about!

JENNA: I know what I’m talking about. I’ve interviewed him. He trained him from the amateurs into the professionals.

TONEY: Okay! That’s what he says! That’s what he says! But ask the mother*ckers around here! Okay!

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I'm not to sure what to make of this. Has anyone claimed this except Toney?

[TheGreatA]

Miller was a trainer at Kronk Gym, likely worked with Hearns too, but it doesn't mean that Steward didn't train Hearns from since the amateurs. He only truly became the force that he was once he turned pro, as an amateur Hearns wasn't much of a puncher. Steward has had major success training fighters with Hearns's bodytype, long and lanky boxers who excel at controlling distance with the jab.

[Toney616]

Miller was a trainer at Kronk Gym, likely worked with Hearns too, but it doesn't mean that Steward didn't train Hearns from since the amateurs. He only truly became the force that he was as a professional, as an amateur Hearns wasn't much of a puncher. Steward has had major success training fighters with Hearns's bodytype, long and lanky boxers who excel at controlling distance with the jab.

I agree, but what Toney is saying is that Miller did the real work and Manny took all the credit.

slighty off topic:
I've never been impressed with the defensive skills of any Manny trained fighter - except McCallum

[TheGreatA]

I agree, but what Toney is saying is that Miller did the real work and Manny took all the credit.

slighty off topic:
I've never been impressed with the defensive skills of any Manny trained fighter - except McCallum

Steward does not teach his boxers traditional defense, rather he believes that his fighters should fight "tall", nullifying any close range fighting by clinching and using offense and control of the distance in favour of traditional defensive techniques. As long as his fighters keep the opponent at the end of their jab, they will have no difficulties.

McCallum changed trainers often, but he was for the most part his own trainer. Picked up techniques like it was nothing and made up his own style.

[The Surgeon]

Oscar said he wasnt much of a trainer. That he would just let u go play basketball for fitness and never got on a fighters ass for slacking

Tommy Hearns CLEARLY respects the hell out of him tho and if Millar did all the work and Manny just took the credit im sure Tommy would feel differently

Toney, love him as i do, is a ****in mouth piece

[Toney616]

Steward does not teach his boxers traditional defense, rather he believes that his fighters should fight "tall", nullifying any close range fighting by clinching and using offense and control of the distance in favour of traditional defensive techniques. As long as his fighters keep the opponent at the end of their jab, they will have no difficulties.

I strongly disagree with Manny on this

McCallum changed trainers often, but he was for the most part his own trainer. Picked up techniques like it was nothing and made up his own style.

I can see a lot of Walcott and Robinson in McCallums style - I was surprised to find out he was a Manny trained fighter. But this explains it.

Thanks for the info.

[Toney616]

Toney, love him as i do, is a ****in mouth piece

I think he learn of tact from Larry 'Foot in mouth' Holmes