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  • CarlosG815
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    Mickey Walker vs a good counter puncher

    How would Mickey Walker do against a good counter puncher like a Chris Eubank?


    Who are some other counter punchers who would give Walker trouble with the way he was always jumping in with left hooks leaving himself wide open for a counter right hand?
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    Tommy Loughran was was a good counter puncher and Walker sometimes caught him. I think Walkers leaping left didn't have the primary purpose of connecting, moreso to make the opponent go into retreat mode, even if they land a punch while doing it Walker was one tough SOB so could take it and keep the pressure up.

    The reasons you explained is also the reason I feel Hagler beats Walker by decision his right jab would be hell and Hagler didn't usually take a step back.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Barnburner
      Tommy Loughran was was a good counter puncher and Walker sometimes caught him. I think Walkers leaping left didn't have the primary purpose of connecting, moreso to make the opponent go into retreat mode, even if they land a punch while doing it Walker was one tough SOB so could take it and keep the pressure up.

      The reasons you explained is also the reason I feel Hagler beats Walker by decision his right jab would be hell and Hagler didn't usually take a step back.
      Tommy Loughran was probably the best counter puncher he faced but there are better throughout history. For as many opportunities and how predictable Walker was you would think he would get countered more.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Barnburner
        Tommy Loughran was was a good counter puncher and Walker sometimes caught him. I think Walkers leaping left didn't have the primary purpose of connecting, moreso to make the opponent go into retreat mode, even if they land a punch while doing it Walker was one tough SOB so could take it and keep the pressure up.

        The reasons you explained is also the reason I feel Hagler beats Walker by decision his right jab would be hell and Hagler didn't usually take a step back.
        Well I see hagler as a bit too big for Walker. I believe that on his night Walker could have won against any WW... I agree that Sugar Ray Robinson was a more complete fighter but I think Mickey is good enough to win at least one out of three. I believe he is altogether a better fighter than Eubank,.. but I'm not too sure about how big he is,... but I'd go with Walker..... Walker really ran out of options against a very quick and talented clever and much heavier and taller legend in Loughran........ Walker is unquestionably great,.. one look at Barnburners Walker highlights video will see ONE HELL OF A FIGHTER.

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          #5
          Originally posted by CarlosG815
          Tommy Loughran was probably the best counter puncher he faced but there are better throughout history. For as many opportunities and how predictable Walker was you would think he would get countered more.
          Micky Walker predictable? WTF?

          Kelly Pavlik is predictable, Arthur Abraham is predictable, Wladamir Klitschko is predictable.

          If anything Walker was unpredictable. He was very wild, who had a very high workrate and was hard to figure out.

          Funny enough Pete Latzo who fought Walker, said he was very unpreditable.

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            #6
            Originally posted by McGoorty
            Well I see hagler as a bit too big for Walker. I believe that on his night Walker could have won against any WW... I agree that Sugar Ray Robinson was a more complete fighter but I think Mickey is good enough to win at least one out of three. I believe he is altogether a better fighter than Eubank,.. but I'm not too sure about how big he is,... but I'd go with Walker..... Walker really ran out of options against a very quick and talented clever and much heavier and taller legend in Loughran........ Walker is unquestionably great,.. one look at Barnburners Walker highlights video will see ONE HELL OF A FIGHTER.
            I agree with you but I do feel that Walker was great at middleweight as well.

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              #7
              Originally posted by CuBaN HaWk
              Micky Walker predictable? WTF?

              Kelly Pavlik is predictable, Arthur Abraham is predictable, Wladamir Klitschko is predictable.

              If anything Walker was unpredictable. He was very wild, who had a very high workrate and was hard to figure out.

              Funny enough Pete Latzo who fought Walker, said he was very unpreditable.
              He liked to come in with the left hook is all I'm saying, and he did it quite frequently. Similar to the way that Pacquiao comes in predictably and a puncher like Marquez is able to capitalize on that and neutralize it, whereas stationary fighters who can't counterpunch like Margarito and Cotto can not. That is what I'm saying.

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                #8
                Originally posted by CarlosG815
                He liked to come in with the left hook is all I'm saying, and he did it quite frequently. Similar to the way that Pacquiao comes in predictably and a puncher like Marquez is able to capitalize on that and neutralize it, whereas stationary fighters who can't counterpunch like Margarito and Cotto can not. That is what I'm saying.
                Because it was his strogest punch. Tyson use to love uppercuts and threw them frequently. Holmes threw his jab frequently. And so on & on.

                Dosent mean they were predictable. It was just there go to punch and it was extremly effective.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by CarlosG815
                  I agree with you but I do feel that Walker was great at middleweight as well.
                  Certainly he was a great Middleweight too, but I believe he was a phenom at WW.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by CuBaN HaWk
                    Because it was his strogest punch. Tyson use to love uppercuts and threw them frequently. Holmes threw his jab frequently. And so on & on.

                    Dosent mean they were predictable. It was just there go to punch and it was extremly effective.
                    Watch Walkers fight with Loughran and you will see what I'm talking about. When he fights a defensive fighter with a good jab like Loughran, who can fight backing up, Walker would lunge in with the left hook. He didn't bob and weave his way inside, he would lunge in with left and then throw a right hand and go into a clinch.

                    This is not comparable to Tyson's uppercut, which was not his strongest punch. Tyson had a great uppercut but I think he had a much better arsenal of weapons including his left hook and right hand, which he always claimed was his best punch.

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