Arturo Gatti vs Miguel Cotto-prime for prime

[Pastrano]

Who would you rank higher, p4p? And what would the outcome be if they had fought at 140? I can't imagine what a great fight that would be, prolly another FOTY! I think Cotto's skills are a bit better than Gatti's, but Gatti had arguably a bit more power and a better chin.

[BigStereotype]

Cotto is soooo much more talented. Put Arturo in a ring with Margarito and you'd get one of the most hideous beatings ever seen. Cotto is too quick and is a much more skilled boxer-puncher. TKO 8 or 9. Look for some awesome body shot knockdowns. Well, actually, hold on. Is prime Cotto the one that outboxed Mosley or the one that obliterated Quintana? 140 or 147? If it's at 140, TKO 8 or 9. At 147, Gatti was much worse than he was at 140. TKO 3 or 4.

[Steak]

Oddly enough, I find this to be a winnable fight for Gatti. I cant help but think back to Cotto vs Torres, because Cotto was weight drained and brittle at 140lbs. Gatti couldnt do much, but what he could do is take a beating and fight back. Cotto's defense at 140 isnt exactly the hardest thing to break through, since his defense is a bit weak against uppercuts and looping punches on the side of the head.

I dont know if I would favor Gatti, but I dont necessarily think it would be 'Cotto by dominating destruction' type of fight.

[BigStereotype]

Oddly enough, I find this to be a winnable fight for Gatti. I cant help but think back to Cotto vs Torres, because Cotto was weight drained and brittle at 140lbs. Gatti couldnt do much, but what he could do is take a beating and fight back. Cotto's defense at 140 isnt exactly the hardest thing to break through, since his defense is a bit weak against uppercuts and looping punches on the side of the head.

I dont know if I would favor Gatti, but I dont necessarily think it would be 'Cotto by dominating destruction' type of fight.

I see this totally differently. You can't say "weight drained Cotto that fought Torres" because he said prime for prime. When he fought Quintana (his absolute best fight at 140, I think), he didn't have those same problems. He wasn't weight drained. He outgrew 140, but he wasn't always too big.

[Steak]

I see this totally differently. You can't say "weight drained Cotto that fought Torres" because he said prime for prime. When he fought Quintana (his absolute best fight at 140, I think), he didn't have those same problems. He wasn't weight drained. He outgrew 140, but he wasn't always too big.

oh, well prime for prime Cotto murks him at 147.

but the opening post mentioned who would have won had they fought at 140lbs, so I gave my opinion on that.

Cotto fought Quintana at 147lbs.

[BigStereotype]

oh, well prime for prime Cotto murks him at 147.

but the opening post mentioned who would have won had they fought at 140lbs, so I gave my opinion on that.

Cotto fought Quintana at 147lbs.

Was it really? Hmm well I guess that blows a hole in my theory. My bad.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Oddly enough, I find this to be a winnable fight for Gatti. I cant help but think back to Cotto vs Torres, because Cotto was weight drained and brittle at 140lbs. Gatti couldnt do much, but what he could do is take a beating and fight back. Cotto's defense at 140 isnt exactly the hardest thing to break through, since his defense is a bit weak against uppercuts and looping punches on the side of the head.

I dont know if I would favor Gatti, but I dont necessarily think it would be 'Cotto by dominating destruction' type of fight.

With all due respect to Gatti, Torres was a much harder puncher IMO. Hes one of those natural one hit KO type fighters. The fact that Cotto withstood those bombs at 140 is pretty impressive. Like the poster above said, he was really at his best from when he first came up to welterweight, clear up to the Margarito fight. I think that version of Cotto absolutely dominates and win by TKO sometime during the middle rounds. Skill wise Cotto was on a much higher level than Gatti, didn't have the type of chin issues he had at 140 (due to the weight) and operated like a technician. He would just be too much.

[slicksouthpaw16]

oh, well prime for prime Cotto murks him at 147.

but the opening post mentioned who would have won had they fought at 140lbs, so I gave my opinion on that.

Cotto fought Quintana at 147lbs.

Was it really? Hmm well I guess that blows a hole in my theory. My bad.

That's the thing, Cotto wasn't at his prime at 140. Had they fought at 140 Id still take Cotto, but it would last a few more rounds.

[jabsRstiff]

Gatti was steered clear of really good punchers....and was also very vulnerable to body shots. Miguel would wreck him downstairs, before taking his pain away with some blows to the defenseless noggin.

[Steak]

With all due respect to Gatti, Torres was a much harder puncher IMO. Hes one of those natural one hit KO type fighters. The fact that Cotto withstood those bombs at 140 is pretty impressive. Like the poster above said, he was really at his best from when he first came up to welterweight, clear up to the Margarito fight. I think that version of Cotto absolutely dominates and win by TKO sometime during the middle rounds. Skill wise Cotto was on a much higher level than Gatti, didn't have the type of chin issues he had at 140 (due to the weight) and operated like a technician. He would just be too much.

I think Torres could hit a little harder, but didnt have the offensive arsenal Gatti had. His attack was repititive. Gatti, when he wanted, could put punches together fairly well(well, assuming his target wasnt moving). Torres, when tested against ranked opponents, didnt nearly have that kind of power, as shown against Arnatous and Morua(who was knocked out by Witter and Maidana).

his one win was over Holt, and that was a very controversial stoppage if I remember correctly. Gatti knocked out better fighters than Torres.

and remember, Im assuming this fight is happening at 140lbs, since that was brought up in the opening post. Cotto would have little to no trouble against Gatti at 147.