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    There are Many What if they were both in their PRIME DebatesI will start with the Heavyweights --- so here are my SCENARIOS
    [LEFT][B][COLOR="DarkRed"]From Actual Cases ONLY,...... WE Know most of the obvious results BUT I want to know how these fights may have BEEN DIFFERENT to the Historical Realities,----[CENTER][COLOR="Blue"]------
    #1. Mike Tyson Vs Larry Holmes
    #2. Jess Willard Vs Jack Johnson#3. Rocky Marciano Vs Joe Louis#4. Jack Dempsey Vs Gene Tunney#5. Jim Corbett Vs John L. Sullivan#6. Jack Johnson Vs James J. Jeffries
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    If you have any other HW bouts you'd like to visit, feel free
    Remember to say what you think would happen differently,.. have fun !!!
    8
    FIVE Stars
    50.00%
    4
    4 Stars
    25.00%
    2
    3 Stars
    0.00%
    0
    TWO Stars ,... Oohh
    0.00%
    0
    Just 1 measly Star,.... ouch
    25.00%
    2

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by McGoorty; 08-08-2011, 07:33 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by McGoorty View Post
    #1. Mike Tyson Vs Larry Holmes
    I got Holmes by UD or late KO

    He already knew how, he just couldn't pull it off anymore.



    #2. Jess Willard Vs Jack Johnson


    Jack Johnson by TKO

    #3. Rocky Marciano Vs Joe Louis
    Joe Louis by mid TKO/KO. Louis was rated the best puncher of all time by Ring Magazine, Marciano was not going to simply eat his punches all night and keep coming.

    #4. Jack Dempsey Vs Gene Tunney
    Dempsey by KO

    #5. Jim Corbett Vs John L. Sullivan
    John L Sullivan by KO

    #6. Jack Johnson Vs James J. Jeffries
    Now this one I really think could go either way.

    Well it was a mission to quote it like this due to all the damn formatting, but that's how I think it would go.

    I'd like to add two pretty common ones. Ali-Frazier and Ali-Foreman.

    Ali himself said his chin was weaker in his prime, and he definitely hit harder post '71. I think he might do worse against these fighters, but lose? I don't know

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    • #3
      Originally posted by McGoorty View Post
      There are Many What if they were both in their PRIME DebatesI will start with the Heavyweights --- so here are my SCENARIOS
      [LEFT][B][COLOR="DarkRed"]From Actual Cases ONLY,...... WE Know most of the obvious results BUT I want to know how these fights may have BEEN DIFFERENT to the Historical Realities,----[CENTER][COLOR="Blue"]------
      #1. Mike Tyson Vs Larry Holmes
      #2. Jess Willard Vs Jack Johnson#3. Rocky Marciano Vs Joe Louis#4. Jack Dempsey Vs Gene Tunney#5. Jim Corbett Vs John L. Sullivan#6. Jack Johnson Vs James J. Jeffries
      -----------------------------------
      If you have any other HW bouts you'd like to visit, feel free
      Remember to say what you think would happen differently,.. have fun !!!
      1. still tyson....larry was great i think a swarming puncher was his weakness

      2. was a fix so johnson by ko

      3. joe luis by decision

      4. hard one i say dempsey by ko or tunney by a very close decision

      5 and 6 no tape of corbet sullivan or jefries(prime) for me to answer this one

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      • #4
        for luis marciano i could see marciano getting dropped a few times.....'

        but it hink it would got to the cards like 10-5 for louis

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        • #5
          Holmes with a slight edge over Tyson, IMO. I think Holmes would win a decision, but there isn't much in it. Tyson would get his chances.

          Johnson slaps Willard about, but again struggles late in the fight. Still wins a wide decision, but Willard is asking some questions late-on.

          Louis, brutally & inside the distance. Two different class of fighters.

          Another close one. I like Dempsey to stop Tunney, but it's near even-money. Tunney would be in with every chance, & win or lose, troubles any version of Dempsey.

          Corbett-Sullivan, I'm just not that comfortable without the footage.

          I think Jeffries would find Johnson & finish him in his peak years.

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          • #6
            Tyson Vs Holmes - Holmes UD
            Willard Vs Johnson - Johnson TKO late
            Marciano Vs Louis - Louis TKO mid-rounds
            Dempsey Vs Tunney - Dempsey TKO late
            Corbett Vs Sullivan - Corbett UD
            Johnson Vs Jeffries - Johnson close UD in the best fight of the bunch

            Poet

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            • #7
              PS. Make the poll public next time so we can which douchebag gave it 1 star.

              Poet

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              • #8
                Tyson vs Holmes. Holmes puts that jab out with authority which troubles Tyson who can't seem to find a consistent rhythmn. Holmes UD.

                Williard vs Johnson. Agree with WBY that Johnson wins early but, the huge stamina of Williard coupled with the fact he's much heavier, lead to Johnson being very tired which could create scary moments but, a Johnson UD.

                Louis vs Marciano - Apart from the first two rounds or so when Louis is getting started, it's plain sailing landing heavy punches at ease until Rocky's corner get him out of there somewhere around round 9.

                Dempsey vs Tunney - Tunney still grabs a Unanimous decision despite being dropped a few times in the early rounds. Once Tunney gets his movement going Dempsey will get frustrated and struggle to land any huge shots.

                Corbett vs Sullivan - Corbett still too clever for the Boston Strong Boy and wins a decision.

                Johnson vs Jeffries - Johnson winning comfortably until the late rounds where Jeffries' superior strength and stamina come into play. He wobbles Johnson and possibly gets a knockdown but, Johnson recovers well and hangs on (literally) to reach the final bell and get the decision victory.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                  PS. Make the poll public next time so we can which douchebag gave it 1 star.

                  Poet
                  I assure you that I did not vote for myself, but I'll make polls public from now on.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                    PS. Make the poll public next time so we can which douchebag gave it 1 star.

                    Poet
                    I bet it's condomboy.

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