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  • #21
    Originally posted by GJC View Post
    You ever see that mini series Bodyline?
    Great Bookie Robbery is brilliant too
    yeah of course, I was agog when I heard that Bodyline came out (funny,, we always liked Larwood ), but those actors couldn't Bat or Bowl for* (proverbial*), and not enough Bradman....... is Bradman the most dominant sportsman of all-time or what ?????... we certainly can't manage anything like that,Bradman was Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Joe Davis ( yes he was dominant too, actually I've made a Snooker century, 104, but no professional though, you brit's are snooker genius's), Rod Laver, Tiger woods rolled into one. I'm not exaggerating, a lot of people don't know this but Bradman was the South Australian Squash Champion, DittoTennis champ as well and he played golf off scratch and Made a Billiards Century playing against the most brilliant Billiards player of all time, WALTER LINDRUM (incidentally he was unbeatable). O.K. G.J.C. it's your serve !!!!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by GJC View Post
      You forgot Thorpe
      Ashes are staying home for a few years my man, sorry!
      Oh yeah !!! the Thorpedo !!!, Thorpy, Thorpo, The Fashionista of the London 2012 Olympic Games,..... yeah mate if Ian Thorpe wins just one Gold medal after his lengthy retirement, he would be confirmed as the Greatest Freestyle Swimmer in history,. actually, he already is,..... as for the ashes, yes we haven't found the right bowling line-up yet, have no spinner. And Ricky Ponting IS NO Captain,...... to think they pushed The Great STEVE WAUGH out of the game,.... so Ponting could drag us so low, BUT WE still have won nearly twice as many tests over the 134 year Span of England Versus Australian Test Cricket,........ Steve Waugh, Now HE WAS A BATSMAN !!!!..............Hey G, the Americans have no idea what they are missing do they ????

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      • #23
        Shame my old man isn't around he'd talk cricket all day. Funny thing is it was always his ambition to see Bradman bat and the only time he did he got a duck
        His favourite was Keith Miller as I recall. You know this is a foreign language to the yanks!
        Rod Laver for me he was an all time hero of mine.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by GJC View Post
          Shame my old man isn't around he'd talk cricket all day. Funny thing is it was always his ambition to see Bradman bat and the only time he did he got a duck
          His favourite was Keith Miller as I recall. You know this is a foreign language to the yanks!
          Rod Laver for me he was an all time hero of mine.
          I was watching Laver (the yanks do know him) awhile ago on youtube and was stunned at how quick and brilliant he was. And for the Americans out there, here's how good BRADMAN was, if he was a boxer, you could combine Willie Pep, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sam Langford and Harry Greb together you'd have a Bradman..................... Keith Miller was the Greatest Bowling Allrounder of all time, though West Indian Garfield Sobers was a better Batting All-Rounder, And, This is so you can understand Cricket a bit better, 11 men go out to field, one man is at Silly Point, one is the Caretaker, better known as the Wicketkeeper, one bowls, some go into the slips, the bowler tries to bowl a Maiden over or get an L.B.W., one goes to Long On, the batsman doesn't want to get a duck by skying the ball into the Gully, and if this match is played in India, they all hope to avoid the Delhi Belly, and when the team that is out, gets in and tries to stop the team that's out, FROM GETTING IN,...... then do that again, TWICE. All this while the bowlers are bowling Doosras, flippers, bumpers, GOOGLIES, sandshoe crushers, Skull-Busters, reverse-swingers and chinaman's,......... and they hope to send the opposing captain home with a "PAIR", and to do a Spofforth,........................................ ...................... ....................Once this has been done, about 5 days and about 30 hours,....... You have played a proper game of Cricket,,,,,...... so my American friends, it's as easy as that,..... simple,... as long as you like a rock hard object coming at your head at 90 miles an hour that is,............................ And now that Americans COMPLETELY understand Cricket,.... I will explain to the Mexicans, and I shall now translate the ABOVE text into Spanish,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, very Soon, You know you want to,...!!!!!!

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          • #25
            No the rules of cricket are far easier explained than that:

            You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
            When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game

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            • #26
              Originally posted by GJC View Post
              No the rules of cricket are far easier explained than that:

              You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
              When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game
              Yeah I've heard that one before, but I'm an original,... and words like Doora, Googlies, Silly Square Leg, The 12th man, the slips and such like is simply too hard to resist, surely you agree !!!! lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
                I think Darcy is too skilled and will upset Zale's predictable rythmn for a stoppage victory in the middle-late rounds.
                Ahem? I don't think anybody without Graziano's power and tenacity could ever stop Tony in middle rounds. Even Rocky needed like 20 punches to do it. And hardly anyone else had power and tenacity like Rocky. Ofc, Tony did have the same kind of tenacity, but tho he hit hard, Rocky hit harder still.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
                  Ahem? I don't think anybody without Graziano's power and tenacity could ever stop Tony in middle rounds. Even Rocky needed like 20 punches to do it. And hardly anyone else had power and tenacity like Rocky. Ofc, Tony did have the same kind of tenacity, but tho he hit hard, Rocky hit harder still.
                  Who said it was a KO?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
                    Ahem? I don't think anybody without Graziano's power and tenacity could ever stop Tony in middle rounds. Even Rocky needed like 20 punches to do it. And hardly anyone else had power and tenacity like Rocky. Ofc, Tony did have the same kind of tenacity, but tho he hit hard, Rocky hit harder still.
                    Granted that Rocky did hit hard, but who say's that Darcy doesn't hit as hard as Rocky, it's up for debate. I respect your analysis about Zales chin, the man was a rock, and so was Darcy, that's why I thought this would be a perfect match up. Darcy had Ko's in both fists, had far more ability and speed than Graziano, and Zale could test anybody's chin out. But McGoorty hit harder than all the other American Middleweights. Eddie McGoorty, like Les Darcy had knocked out several HW's each. But McGoorty landed several bombs that he described as the hardest punches that Eddie had ever landed, but Mcgoorty said that Darcy didn't even feel those shots and never budged an inch. Which was unlucky for Eddie, as he was being thrashed to within inches of his life, after 3 knockdowns, Les pleaded with McGoorty yo stay down. But Eddie got up again and Darcy belted McGoorty wiyh 3 hard punches and McGoorty crumpled to unconciousness,.......... ......... They made them hard in those days, Zale's fathers generation. You have every right to an opinion, I too will go against the flow sometimes. That Willie Pastrano was a helluva fighter by the way.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by McGoorty View Post
                      Granted that Rocky did hit hard, but who say's that Darcy doesn't hit as hard as Rocky, it's up for debate. I respect your analysis about Zales chin, the man was a rock, and so was Darcy, that's why I thought this would be a perfect match up. Darcy had Ko's in both fists, had far more ability and speed than Graziano, and Zale could test anybody's chin out. But McGoorty hit harder than all the other American Middleweights. Eddie McGoorty, like Les Darcy had knocked out several HW's each. But McGoorty landed several bombs that he described as the hardest punches that Eddie had ever landed, but Mcgoorty said that Darcy didn't even feel those shots and never budged an inch. Which was unlucky for Eddie, as he was being thrashed to within inches of his life, after 3 knockdowns, Les pleaded with McGoorty yo stay down. But Eddie got up again and Darcy belted McGoorty wiyh 3 hard punches and McGoorty crumpled to unconciousness,.......... ......... They made them hard in those days, Zale's fathers generation. You have every right to an opinion, I too will go against the flow sometimes. That Willie Pastrano was a helluva fighter by the way.
                      Yeah, Willie was crafty. Not really a HUGE fan, I just thought his last name sounded cool. But he really was good.

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