Imagine a Heavyweight World without Ali

[Great John L]

For one thing, there'd be a lot less great fights to remember if there were no Ali.

[BritishBoxing92]

Holmes was superior to Foreman in terms of skill,speed,durability,and stamina.
But that would have been a great fight if they had met.

im not putting holmes down i agree he was quicker and foreman was a head hunter in the ring so it would be interesting fight to watch i would give holmes a 50% chance against a 70s foreman but i wouldnt count foreman out either tbh

[DarkTerror88]

I think a 1968/69 Frazier has a good chance over Liston then.iston showed considerable signs of slipping when he fought Ali. 5 years later, even with out Ali he'd be much MUCH slower. Young, Hungry Frazier has a good chance.

If Foreman loses interest/Falls into despair in 74/75 like he did against Ali, and he loses the title or retires, what happens to the Championship then?

[kendom]

I think a 1968/69 Frazier has a good chance over Liston then.iston showed considerable signs of slipping when he fought Ali. 5 years later, even with out Ali he'd be much MUCH slower. Young, Hungry Frazier has a good chance.

If Foreman loses interest/Falls into despair in 74/75 like he did against Ali, and he loses the title or retires, what happens to the Championship then?

Between Frazier and Ken Norton till one of them gets defeated by Larry Holmes

[McGoorty]

How would the championship and division have looked?

I'd say that it would be like living in the 50's, 40's, 30's, 20's, 10's or 1800's

[Forza]

foreman would have been the GOAT

So even though I don't like Ali I'm glad he did what he did

[Miburo]

Foreman would have dominated the 70s.

[bojangles1987]

Frazier would have gotten even less respect, Foreman likely would have ruled the division for far longer. Those are the immediate impacts I could think of.

[Sugar Sting Ray]

Liston would have ruled until Frazier beat him. Frazier would rule till Foreman beat him. Foreman would rule till Holmes beat him. Spinks would beat Holmes and everything would be just how it was.