Jack Johnson vs. Wlad Klitschko

[Dr. Z]

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Who was in front after 20 rounds?

Watch many of the surviving rounds prior to round 20. Then you can judge for yourself.

What copy of the film do you have? What rounds have you seen?

On April 5, 1915, in front of a huge crowd at the new Oriental Park Racetrack in Havana, Cuba, he knocked out champion Jack Johnson in the 26th round to win the world heavyweight boxing championship. Johnson later said he had intentionally lost the fight, despite the fact there is evidence of Willard winning fairly, which can be seen clearly in the recorded footage, as well as the comments Johnson made to his cornermen between rounds and immediately after the fight, and that he bet $2500 on himself to win. Willard said, "If he was going to throw the fight, I wish he'd done it sooner. It was hotter than hell out there." Johnson later acknowledged lying about throwing the fight after footage of the fight was made widely available in the United States. Shortly after the fight, Jack Johnson had actually accepted defeat gracefully saying, "Willard was too much for me, I just didn't have it."

Johnson found that he could not knock out the giant Willard, who fought as a counterpuncher, making Johnson do all the leading. Johnson began to tire after the 20th round, and was visibly hurt by heavy body punches from Willard in rounds preceding the 26th-round knockout. Johnson's claim of a "dive" gained momentum because most fans only saw a still photo of Johnson lying on the canvas shading his eyes from the broiling Cuban sun. No films of the fight were allowed to be shown in the United States because of an inter-state ban on the trafficking of fight films that was in effect at the time. Most boxing fans only saw the film of the Johnson–Willard fight when a copy was found in 1967.

[Ivich]

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Watch many of the surviving rounds prior to round 20. Then you can judge for yourself.

What copy of the film do you have? What rounds have you seen?

I'll answer your question right after you answer mine.Who was in front after 25rds?

In the meantime chew on this.

After the fight, referee Jack Welch said: "If I had been compelled to give a decision at the end of the twenty-fifth round, it would have been Johnson's by a wide margin. Up to the twentieth round, Willard had one won only one round by a real margin and two or three others by the slightest shade. In the thirteenth and fourteenth, I was almost sure Johnson would knock Willard out, but Willard showed that his jaw and body were too tough. Johnson put up a wonderful fight to the twentieth round, but age stepped in then and defeated him."

[Dr. Z]

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I'll answer your question right after you answer mine.Who was in front after 25rds?

In the meantime chew on this.

After the fight, referee Jack Welch said: "If I had been compelled to give a decision at the end of the twenty-fifth round, it would have been Johnson's by a wide margin. Up to the twentieth round, Willard had one won only one round by a real margin and two or three others by the slightest shade. In the thirteenth and fourteenth, I was almost sure Johnson would knock Willard out, but Willard showed that his jaw and body were too tough. Johnson put up a wonderful fight to the twentieth round, but age stepped in then and defeated him."

You changed you question. Who was in front after 20 rounds? Johnson but Willard knew he had a log wya to go and would have fought differently had the fight been only 20 rounds!

Now what version of the fight do you have and which rounds have you seen? Any of the rounds before 20. Well, I have and Willard won some of them. Just a hunch you have not seen not as much as I have. I look forward to your answers.

[Ascended]

Klitchko by knock out.

crazy idiots on this site are giving Jack a chance,yet nobody even made pro fighting like that even in 30-40s,these lunatics don't watch full or all of what we have of Johnson/dempsey they like to act like their reading a book and imagining the visual

[Rockin']

crazy idiots on this site are giving Jack a chance,yet nobody even made pro fighting like that even in 30-40s,these lunatics don't watch full or all of what we have of Johnson/dempsey they like to act like their reading a book and imagining the visual

Your words don't matter 2 I.

Klit KO-1 Johnson..................Rockin'

[Rockin']

yes that's what i said 1st round seems like you're watching full footages recorded now good job,as i said my words are only of what's on recorded footage,i cannot alter how anybody fights in them,

Are you able to write better than a 5th grader?

Your writing is funkin' hilarious to I. ............Rockin'

[Ascended]

Your words don't matter 2 I.

Klit KO-1 Johnson..................Rockin'

Yes, that's what I said. The first round seems like you're watching the full footage recorded now. Good job. As I said, my words are only what's on recorded footage; I cannot alter how anybody fights in them. See how easy it was to write like you were taught was the so-called correct way? Even if I chose to keep writing the so-called wrong way, you're no teacher or parent of mine, which means It bothers me not what you think is correct or wrong; this isn't school.
My point still stands: you're now watching full footage. My words will always be correct against the opposition.

Deflecting against my facts doesn't work on I, which you obviously know you've been defeated, which is why you're doing it. What made you think you're usually insults that work on normal people work on I when I'm not normal?

[Ascended]

Are you able to write better than a 5th grader?

Your writing is funkin' hilarious to I. ............Rockin'

Why aren't you able yet to produce footage of the 30s–40s as advanced as guys in the 70s–90s? My words were supposedly lies, remember? Where is the footage from the full rounds proving ascended wrong?

[Rockin']

To Ass ended: Eat sheet with your watching boxing ass.....................Rockin'

[Rockin']

Why aren't you able yet to produce footage of the 30s–40s as advanced as guys in the 70s–90s? My words were supposedly lies, remember? Where is the footage from the full rounds proving ascended wrong?

Watch Pound for Pound, it's the best to i. .....................Rockin'