Roberto Duran's resume outside of Leonard 1

[SCtrojansbaby]

iran barkley who was a middleweight big enuf to compete as a light heavy by the time manos de piedra fought him nailed duran with a crushing left hook (his best punch) to momentarily stagger the panamanian in round 8...

duran stayed erect and still proceeded to fight back and finish the round strongly...

what makes u think a straight left from little manny would faze duran?

With added weight your punch resistance usually goes up. Also a big heavy lumbering left hand is completely different then a Pacquiao lightning quick straight left that you don't see coming. NOBODY is above getting caught(and hurt) by a Pacquiao straight left.

[studentofthegam]

No "Leonard/Duran 1" hmmmmm.........Maybe it would be possible to criticize some of Duran's bull**** like quitting and flashing without being under attack by BH's boxing royalty. But I'm not one to erase history to come up with my own truth and he did whoop tat ass so Duran is one of the greatest.

[talip bin osman]

With added weight your punch resistance usually goes up. Also a big heavy lumbering left hand is completely different then a Pacquiao lightning quick straight left that you don't see coming. NOBODY is above getting caught(and hurt) by a Pacquiao straight left.

watch it urself man... at 8:53...

yes, it was big, it was heavy but it aint lumbering... on the contrary, it was quite swift and duran never saw it coming...

[Daddy T]

watch it urself man... at 8:53...

yes, it was big, it was heavy but it aint lumbering... on the contrary, it was quite swift and duran never saw it coming...

Yup Duran kicked ass I wouldn't even bother debating too hard with someone who thinks otherwise ... if they don't realise Duran kicked ass by watching him err kick ass ... than they ain't gonna be swayed by posts on an internet forum.

[SCtrojansbaby]

watch it urself man... at 8:53...

yes, it was big, it was heavy but it aint lumbering... on the contrary, it was quite swift and duran never saw it coming...

I have seen the fight before and now I see the punch you were talking about. Doesn't change that its a completely different kind punch then a Pacquiao straight left which can anybody can be caught and hurt by ANYBODY.

As I said its a 50/50 fight.

But the straight left is why I don't think anybody at any of the weights he fought at beats Pacquiao easily. That punch is a game changer and I don't think anybody could go 12 rounds without getting caught at some point.

[Barn]

I have seen the fight before and now I see the punch you were talking about. Doesn't change that its a completely different kind punch then a Pacquiao straight left which can anybody can be caught and hurt by ANYBODY.

As I said its a 50/50 fight.

But the straight left is why I don't think anybody at any of the weights he fought at beats Pacquiao easily. That punch is a game changer and I don't think anybody could go 12 rounds without getting caught at some point.

Hagler would eat a Pac left hand then spit it out if he went to the JMW division in these modern times without same day weigh in.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Hagler would eat a Pac left hand then spit it out if he went to the JMW division in these modern times without same day weigh in.

lol way to bring up the most extreme situation

[BennyST]

I agree Duran>Pacquiao but nobody in the history of boxing is above getting nailed by a fight changing Pacquiao straight left. Pacquiao vs Duran is a 50/50 fight if there ever was one.

You're right in one sense. He could get nailed by it, but it wouldn't be a fight changing punch nor would he get hit by it very much at all. Duran has better defense than anyone Pac has ever fought and a greater chin than anyone he's ever fought. He's just a greater fighter than anyone currently in the sport and by far greater than anyone Pac has seen. However, Duran has faced greater fighters than Pac and won. In the same vein, you could ask what happens to Pac when he gets nailed by a perfect counter right hand by Duran or what happens when he has his body beaten upon brutally for the whole fight?

The one fighter that was able to break that chin was arguably the hardest single punch fighter in the history of the sport, at his peak, in his best division and Duran was tiny in comparison, and past his best when they fought.

Pac just doesn't have the right style to beat Duran who had the perfect style to beat Pac, imo. It's more like an 80-20 fight for me. You need to be a different style of fighter to beat Duran at his best than Pac was. The stuff that Pac would get raked with after having his big shots slipped would break him down over the fight. We've all seen what happens when he has someone who slips shots, counters shots, can box and fight equally as well and who has chin, stamina, power, skill. We haven't seen him in with anyone who had the stamina, skills, power, savvy, blah, blah, blah that Duran had. He would eat a counter right uppercut underneath the straight left, among others, all fight to the body and head and it would seriously take it's toll as well as make him stop throwing it with the consistency and commitment.

[TAC602]

Duran's The Greatest Fighter of All-Time.

Or something close.

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Duran-Pac is so not a 50-50 fight...