what if the SMW version of James Toney was in the Division Today?

[The Surgeon]

LOL, i criticised one of those posters with a billion rep points because one of his "joke" topics was in bad taste. I think he maxed out my minus reputation.

It seems to make absolutely no difference though, as far as I can tell.

Ah i see! Wankers........

I'll hit u with green whenever i can dude not that ive got loads of rep power or it even means ***** lol

[Pastrano]

Toney would roll over most of the Super Sixers...Ward, Froch and Johnson would take him the distance but lose clearly and the others would get ktfo.

[Forza]

I personally think froch would win by a SD and ward a dominating UD

[The Surgeon]

I personally think froch would win by a SD and ward a dominating UD

Ud pick Carl Froch to beat a Prime James Toney?

I cant even IMAGINE that *****, I think thats Toney's easiest fight along with Abraham

[BigStereotype]

Dirrell gives him pnty of trouble with speed and movement but i can see Toney bullying him a bit, i think he'd be in Dirrels head before the fight too, i like James to get a late KO there. Ur right tho he is a stylistic nightmare for JT

I don't know if Dirrell would give Toney all that much trouble, really. James was pretty fast himself, don't know if he'd match speed with Dirrell, but what would happen the first time one of those laser-right-hand counters catches Dirrell square? Is there any doubt that JT KO's Dirrell?

[Pastrano]

I don't know if Dirrell would give Toney all that much trouble, really. James was pretty fast himself, don't know if he'd match speed with Dirrell, but what would happen the first time one of those laser-right-hand counters catches Dirrell square? Is there any doubt that JT KO's Dirrell?

Guys like Dirrell fared the worst against Toney. Remember Tim Littles? He was the same type. He gave Toney trouble at first, but then Toney's automatism for destruction turned on and bam, that was it. If Dirrell did the same as Reggie Johnson (who imo was a better fighter than Dirrell) and kd Toney, then he'd be in big trouble.

[BigStereotype]

Guys like Dirrell fared the worst against Toney. Remember Tim Littles? He was the same type. He gave Toney trouble at first, but then Toney's automatism for destruction turned on and bam, that was it. If Dirrell did the same as Reggie Johnson (who imo was a better fighter than Dirrell) and kd Toney, then he'd be in big trouble.

I've never heard it put like that. And Toney would get PISSED if a punk like Dirrell knocked him down. That would be an ugly beating until James decided to end it.

[Pastrano]

I've never heard it put like that. And Toney would get PISSED if a punk like Dirrell knocked him down. That would be an ugly beating until James decided to end it.

Yea and Dirrell would most likely retort to hugging the fak out of him! Poor bitx...

[mickey malone]

We all love JT but let's not go too overboard because outstanding talent isn't everything. Although Toney could obviously smoke anyone in the super six tourney, i'd only guarantee it in a fight for the dinner queue. Let's not forget some of his awful weight weakened performances because Ward, Froch, and Kessler imo would all be more than capable of handing him his ass on those occasions.
As for Bute, i'm undecided, mainly because he's elected to hide in the shade of the IBF where records tend to get fabricated rather than recognized. But from what i've seen of him, looks pretty sound..

[Pastrano]

We all love JT but let's not go too overboard because outstanding talent isn't everything. Although Toney could obviously smoke anyone in the super six tourney, i'd only guarantee it in a fight for the dinner queue. Let's not forget some of his awful weight weakened performances because Ward, Froch, and Kessler imo would all be more than capable of handing him his ass on those occasions.
As for Bute, i'm undecided, mainly because he's elected to hide in the shade of the IBF where records tend to get fabricated rather than recognized. But from what i've seen of him, looks pretty sound..

The only one of those at 168 was against Jones. But the Toney that expertly dismantled Barkley and koed Prince Charles Williams and Littles would dispatch of those three without greater difficulties.