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Is Oscar De la Hoya a top 20 ATG WW?
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Originally posted by CarlosG815 View PostI do think he's a top 10 but I can not make a list to justify that, as I do not have the knowledge. To me, he is a top 10 but I can not say that with any certainty, as you have with your pilfered list...
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostWhere do you rank Oscar at WW, GJC?
You have some of the better lists I have seen per weight class on this website.
Thing to look at was in his era roughly was he the best welter, better than Trinidad and Mosley etc? Even if you say yes its not going to be by a big margin and they don't register on Ruben's list either. Throw in Benetiz, Duran etc and to not even crack the top 30 is no big shame. Thinking h2h I look at fighters like Carlos Palomino who most won't even think about but who I think h2h would give DLH a world of trouble. Ruben's list has a few names on it i'd probably lose or juggle with but as a bench mark it just shows that you are not a DLH hater (and he does get a lot of unwarranted stick) not to have him even top 30 at welter.
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Originally posted by RubenSonny View PostHow is it a piffered list? Whats wrong with my list? I've actually posted the top 10 to that list twice before. The basis for you having him in the top 10 is that you really like him, your just an ignorant fool and you made a claim with nothing to back it up, yet you criticise my list....I knew you were full of ****.
Pipe down, son. You are getting too upset over nothing.
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Originally posted by CarlosG815 View PostI am an ignorant fool yet you have posted a list with such certainty although you know very little of many fighters and zilch of others. You are in no position to make a list, and neither am I, yet the difference between you and I (The "fool") is that I realize that I do not have the capacity to make a list.
Pipe down, son. You are getting too upset over nothing.
A summarized series of events, for all to see in this thread
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Originally posted by CarlosG815 View PostI would have liked to have seen him fight Vernon Forrest. I think Forrest could have beat DLH, he was an incredible talent.Last edited by Pastrano; 04-22-2011, 12:50 PM.
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I agree wit top 20...he could have been greater if he'd gotten the much deserved nod against Shane, Tito, and if he'd beaten B-hop. He was a hell of a fighter, *******s will disagree because they didn't watch boxing in the 90's, Oscar is a legend! This B.S about him losing "all his big fights" is ******!
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Originally posted by -Huey- View PostI agree wit top 20...he could have been greater if he'd gotten the much deserved nod against Shane, Tito, and if he'd beaten B-hop. He was a hell of a fighter, *******s will disagree because they didn't watch boxing in the 90's, Oscar is a legend! This B.S about him losing "all his big fights" is ******!
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Originally posted by -Huey- View PostI agree wit top 20...he could have been greater if he'd gotten the much deserved nod against Shane, Tito, and if he'd beaten B-hop. He was a hell of a fighter, *******s will disagree because they didn't watch boxing in the 90's, Oscar is a legend! This B.S about him losing "all his big fights" is ******!
Is that a shot at me?
I'm assuming you mean the 2nd Mosley fight right? If so, that fight was at 154 how would that affect his 147 ranking? Because, the first fight with Mosley was at 147 and there is no way in hell Oscar deserved the nod in that fight.
And, another LOL @ "if he'd beaten B-hop". Well damn, if Oba Carr had beaten Tito, Oscar, and Quartey he would have been a HOF'er. If my Aunt had a dick she would be my uncle. I mean what is this about?
Really? "IF" he won?
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