whos better Ali or Marcianno?

[elveiel]

I agree that Rocky had power. But power alone is not enough to win fights. Do you agree with me?

Rocky had a lot more than just power, he was a methodical stalker who patiently waited for the right shots. He'd easily cut the ring down and expose Ali's overated defence and skill.

[delaboxeo]

Its a close one, but I'm going to have to go w/ Ali.

[leff]

Marciano by ko in the late rounds.

Ali will dance and jab, and bust the rock upp bad, but wont be able too keep the pace.

So ali will eventually tire, get caught in the ropes and get ko`ed.

[Lordy]

Ali by points after tasting the canvas.

[biffuk]

Everyone knows that both fighters are legendary.

However, styles make fights.

Ali the genius boxer vs Marciano the brutal slugger.

People have compared Fraziers style to Marciano.
Ali struggled to cope with Frazier.

Marciano stuggled with tall men having to take 2 or 3 shots to land.

However, if Marciano had fought Ali, Marciano would have gone to Ali's arms with ruthless intention.
Ali would need to get Marciano out early on cuts if he was to win.

No one can take someone constantly beating on your arms for 6 or 7 rounds without it having some effect on your punch or your ability to cover up.
No fighter ever attacked ali in this way Foreman went to the body and in all honesty made a fool of himself by not giving a great fighter the respect he deserved.

I think it would be down to who got the first break, eoither ali would cut Marciano or Marciano would batter him into submission.

It's too close to call for these 2 great fighters.

[biffuk]

Everyone knows that both fighters are legendary.

However, styles make fights.

Ali the genius boxer vs Marciano the brutal slugger.

People have compared Fraziers style to Marciano.
Ali struggled to cope with Frazier.

Marciano stuggled with tall men having to take 2 or 3 shots to land.

However, if Marciano had fought Ali, Marciano would have gone to Ali's arms with ruthless intention.
Ali would need to get Marciano out early on cuts if he was to win.

No one can take someone constantly beating on your arms for 6 or 7 rounds without it having some effect on your punch or your ability to guard.
No fighter ever attacked ali in this way Foreman went to the body and in all honesty made a fool of himself by not giving a great fighter the respect he deserved.

I think it would be down to who got the first break, eoither ali would cut Marciano or Marciano would batter him into submission.

It's too close to call for these 2 great fighters.

[chopper77]

I think if Ali held off a pursuing Frazier, especially in # 3, he would be able to hold off Rocky. If Ali fought like the third Frazier fight then it's the same ending. Ali stops Rocky on either cuts, or just beats him up to where he can't continue.

[Warhawk46]

I see this as going two ways...

Either Muhammed Ali wins on cuts in the mid rounds, or Marciano wins via KO in the late rounds.

Too many people say a Prime Ali was untouchable; this is not true. In fact, I just watched a fight where Ali was visibly shaken on a couple occasions versus Doug Jones. Who can forget his fight against Henry Cooper? He very well might have lost that fight if not for Dundee's corner tactics.

Marciano was certainly less skilled athletically. However, to say he was not as skilled in the ring might not be entirely true. He fought exactly how he needed to fight to be effective. Ali, on the other hand, fought a very effective way in his own right.

People can claim Ali would have danced circles around Marciano (or Tyson or Frazier for that matter) but the fact is that he was not able to dance "circles around his opponents" all the time. I feel that Marciano's pressure might get to Ali and where him out. It's very possible. Plus, the fact that pressure fighters often fair well against someone who pulls back (Ali) bodes well.

In any case, it could go either way. Ali by cuts or Marciano by KO. Either fighter might have won a decision as well. A good fight.

[M26]

My favorite fighter of all time is Rocky "The Brockton Blockbuster" Marciano. A great fighter. Tough as they come, tremendous power, incredible stamina and a solid chin. The way he overcame his shortcomings to become the only undefeated champion in history, is nothing if not impressive!

How ever, I would have to go with Ali in this one. Marciano would give him hell, but a prime Ali had all the tools he needed to defeat almost anyone. He would be too fast for Marciano to handle.

Ali had trouble against fighters who applied pressure, and Marciano would make this a brutal war. But I can see Ali surviving. After all, he survived the merciless attack from Frazier, and Frazier applied more pressure than did Marciano, and he had faster hands on the inside. Plus, Ali was not in his prime against Frazier. The Ali that defeated Cleveland Williams and Zora Foley would have handled Frazier better, and would also have defeated Marciano in my opinion.

Muhammad Ali by UD (or by cut - Marciano cut easy, and Alis rapid strikes would make this a likely outcome as well).

[M26]

I am how ever not convinced that the older version of Ali would have beaten Marciano. After his comeback, his legs were gone. And he would need his legs to survive against Marciano. If he went to the ropes like he did against Foreman, he would be in trouble. Marciano never tired and would punish Ali bad.

Rocky Marciano by late tko or decision.