Which 3 Fights would you choose

[Joeyzagz]

1. John L Sullivan v Paddy Ryan II
Any fillm of Sullivan would do.

2. Bob Fitzsimmon vs Jeffries II Bob Fitzsimmons won this fight and Jeffries should have lost on DQ. I havent seen one report that said Jeffries was winning at any point. Robbery!

3. Buddy Baer vs Abe Simon
This was the first decent superheavyweight matchup. Both guys were 6'4+, 240lbs+ and contenders.

Bonus film
Any of the 3 sparring sessions where Greb whiped Dempsey's ass

[Panzer]

Walcott-Lavigne I
Sanstol-Brown I
Wenstop-Tracey

also Walcott-Martin

[Jim Jeffries]

2. Bob Fitzsimmon vs Jeffries II Bob Fitzsimmons won this fight and Jeffries should have lost on DQ. I havent seen one report that said Jeffries was winning at any point. Robbery!

This time Bob dished out some heavy punishment on Jeffries, busting his nose, bloodying his mouth and cutting him up bad. Many believed Fitzsimmons gloves were ’loaded’ with something (Jeffries was said to explain to Bob after the fight how he cut him up much worse this time around in a curious manner), but again Jeffries did not stop and weakened Bob with a great body attack, knocking him out in the 8th.Fitzsimmons had gave it his all, but it was clear to see he was in the wrong place at the wrong time as Jeffries continued to reign supreme with his overwhelming strength and ability to take a blow.

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/fitzsimmons.html

IN 8 ROUNDS JEFFRIES WHIPS FITZSIMMONS; The Cornish Man Receives Knockout Blow When Off His Guard.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstrac...DF405B828CF1D3

Then in the 8th round Bob was caught with a beautiful body shot then the head shot that finished him to allow Jeffries to retain his title.

http://www.bukisa.com/articles/17479...#ixzz1AsG8Dm8g

Am I missing something here? I suppose it's easy to make up whatever you want about a non-televised fight, but perhaps you've got something to back it up?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[Joeyzagz]

This time Bob dished out some heavy punishment on Jeffries, busting his nose, bloodying his mouth and cutting him up bad. Many believed Fitzsimmons gloves were ’loaded’ with something (Jeffries was said to explain to Bob after the fight how he cut him up much worse this time around in a curious manner), but again Jeffries did not stop and weakened Bob with a great body attack, knocking him out in the 8th.Fitzsimmons had gave it his all, but it was clear to see he was in the wrong place at the wrong time as Jeffries continued to reign supreme with his overwhelming strength and ability to take a blow.

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/fitzsimmons.html

IN 8 ROUNDS JEFFRIES WHIPS FITZSIMMONS; The Cornish Man Receives Knockout Blow When Off His Guard.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstrac...DF405B828CF1D3

Then in the 8th round Bob was caught with a beautiful body shot then the head shot that finished him to allow Jeffries to retain his title.

http://www.bukisa.com/articles/17479...#ixzz1AsG8Dm8g

Am I missing something here? I suppose it's easy to make up whatever you want about a non-televised fight, but perhaps you've got something to back it up?

Inquiring minds want to know.

What part of my post do you disagree with?

Anyways here is another quote you forgot:

"If a non-spectator had seen Jeffries and Fitzsimmons two minutes after the fight Fitz would have been picked the winner. There was not a mark on him, while Jeffries face was bloody and beaten to a pulp. "
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...jeffries&hl=en

[Jim Jeffries]

What part of my post do you disagree with?

2. Bob Fitzsimmon vs Jeffries II Bob Fitzsimmons won this fight and Jeffries should have lost on DQ. I havent seen one report that said Jeffries was winning at any point. Robbery!

Just the Bob won this fight, Jeffries should have lost on DQ and Robbery! parts, you know, pretty much all of it.

Anyways here is another quote you forgot:

"If a non-spectator had seen Jeffries and Fitzsimmons two minutes after the fight Fitz would have been picked the winner. There was not a mark on him, while Jeffries face was bloody and beaten to a pulp. "
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...jeffries&hl=en

No, I'm quite aware that Bob was able to mark up Jim pretty good in both fights. In fact Bob was winning both fights, right up till the point at which he was knocked out..

[Joeyzagz]

No, I'm quite aware that Bob was able to mark up Jim pretty good in both fights. In fact Bob was winning both fights, right up till the point at which he was knocked out..

Bob was talking with his guard down, Only then did Jeffries hit him!

Thats bull**** Arthur Abraham tactics. Shouldve been a DQ.

[Jim Jeffries]

Bob was talking with his guard down, Only then did Jeffries hit him!

Thats bull**** Arthur Abraham tactics. Shouldve been a DQ.

Any excuse for the first fight and do you have a reasonable link for this little gem of yours? Hit while "talking with his guard down," you know that just might be the most absurd reason for a DQ I've ever heard in my life.

C'mon mate, I know we were in a boxing ring and all, during a championship fight, and I've been plastering you all night, left your face a bloody mess, but I had my hands down, talking and all, what did you have to go and hit me for?

Now that I think about it, don't bother with the link, you're clearly taking the piss.

[Miburo]

Pep-Saddler II
One of the Burley-Charles fights
The 1929 World Series

[Barn]

Robinson - Gavilan I
Greb vs Tunney I
Langford vs Ketchel Exhibition.