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  • BigStereotype
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    #11
    Originally posted by Bullrush
    1. according to? so your opinion now becomes a written law that everyone else must obey? he rocked bowe, bowe was in trouble. lennox would have killed him had the ref not stopped the fight. its the olympics and we're talking about 2 giants. of course the refs not gonna let it go on and on. would have been different had they fought for a belt. but then bowe would have been sorry the ref didnt save him

    2. i never said one guy is better than the other because one guy beat some dude the other guy lost to. i know you wanna make it sound that way since thats your only argument, you dont wanna hear how bowe got whipped by golota and how lennox knocke him out. or how bowe lost to holyfield, something he couldnt do with lennox. but those are the facts. im not saying THATS why lennox would have knocked him out again. im just saying if youre gonna use something to compare these 2 guys except for that fight in the olympics, then thats what youre gonna have to do. unless you wanna start imagining how these 2 would have fought each other, making up stories how the fight would have gone. the fight never happened, so its pointless to try to argue about it. all we can do except for the fact that lennox already knocked him out is that we can look at the guys and the quality of the guys they fought and then do a little comparison. either way lennox always comes out on top. the guys he fought were way better, he shredded the guys that bowe struggled with. how does it make sense now to say that bowe would have killed him? even you'd have to agree that if you consider everything if somebody is gonna knock the other guy out its lennox. nothing speaks for bowe. except that you may like him

    3. yeah he also lost to him

    so im actually 3-0 i think but whatever, you have your own opinion and youre not gonna move an inch or consider some of the things i said. pointless to argue
    Well, considering the commentator questioned it at the time, I would say that it's definitely questionable. And the reffing in that fight wsa terrible. Come on. I'm not a Lewis hater by any stretch, but a controversial amateur stoppage means almost nothing. Ok, you say "I don't want to talk about triangle theories, just listen to this triangle theory." And Holyfield had a bad matchup for Lewis. Very open and aggressive. And Holyfield was well past prime. And watch this: Rid**** Bowe never lost to Oliver McCall. That loss is way worse than a life and death battle with a top 10 heavyweight. Which brings me to my final point: Bowe KO'd Holyfield a full five years before Lewis went to a draw with him. Come on. I'm not saying that Bowe should be rated above Lewis - based on accomplishment, Lewis has got to be higher. But on their best nights, there is no doubt that Bowe was out of Lewis' league.

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      #12
      Did you say most complete? Unless you think all offense with zero defense is complete I don't think so.

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      • CarlosG815
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        #13
        Originally posted by Yaman
        Did you say most complete? Unless you think all offense with zero defense is complete I don't think so.
        I disagree. I think your boy Evander would disagree with that statement as well.

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          #14
          dunno if he'd a given lennox the treatment or not but bowe was sick.

          he'd definitely get inside that klit jab and flatten both brothers, no question.

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            #15
            Originally posted by NChristo
            Before jumping to insults have you actually even watched the fight ?, the referee was hugely bias in Lewis' favor, just giving out random warnings to Bowe at every chance he could get and the fight was stopped way to early. The Olympics proved nothing at all.
            Besides amateur results mean nothing in the pros.
            I agree.

            Bullrush, what do you think of this bout?

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              #16
              Originally posted by CarlosG815
              I agree.

              Bullrush, what do you think of this bout?
              i'd never seen that footage before but before i stopped it jones landed like 8 CLEAN left hooks on dudes grill.

              sucks he lost an olympic gold medal due to bad judging.

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                #17
                Originally posted by baya
                i'd never seen that footage before but before i stopped it jones landed like 8 CLEAN left hooks on dudes grill.

                sucks he lost an olympic gold medal due to bad judging.
                Go to 2 minutes into the interview. Jones talks about the amateurs and how bad it really is, how little it means, and why many people do not waste time getting into amateur boxing.

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                • Bullrush
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by NChristo
                  Before jumping to insults have you actually even watched the fight ?, the referee was hugely bias in Lewis' favor, just giving out random warnings to Bowe at every chance he could get and the fight was stopped way to early. The Olympics proved nothing at all.
                  Besides amateur results mean nothing in the pros.
                  its another desperate attempt to hide the facts. had lennox knocked him out in the pros you would have argued that while lennox did that he didnt knock him out in his PRIME. so you cant count that. its lame dude. lennox beat him, lennox shredded the guys that bowe struggled with. what makes you think bowe could have knocked him out? outside of the fact that you may hate lennox. thats not a good argument. and neither is "i think he was better". so what exactly speaks for bowe and against lennox?

                  i mentioned the fight they had in the olympics (i know, early stoppage, bowe was killing him and would have knocked him out etc) and the fact that lennox handled the guys that bowe struggled with. so what do you have to offer now? maybe youre right, maybe im missing something. help me out

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                  • NChristo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bullrush
                    its another desperate attempt to hide the facts. had lennox knocked him out in the pros you would have argued that while lennox did that he didnt knock him out in his PRIME. so you cant count that. its lame dude. lennox beat him, lennox shredded the guys that bowe struggled with. what makes you think bowe could have knocked him out? outside of the fact that you may hate lennox. thats not a good argument. and neither is "i think he was better". so what exactly speaks for bowe and against lennox?

                    i mentioned the fight they had in the olympics (i know, early stoppage, bowe was killing him and would have knocked him out etc) and the fact that lennox handled the guys that bowe struggled with. so what do you have to offer now? maybe youre right, maybe im missing something. help me out
                    You lost me, how exactly is it a desperate attempt to hide facts exactly ?, I asked you a simple question and questioned the referee being legitimate and somehow you gathered that I hate Lewis and think Bowe would beat him ?, are you some form of psychic ?, because right now it seems like you're desperate to defend Lewis without me even saying anything negative about him.

                    what makes you think bowe could have knocked him out? outside of the fact that you may hate lennox. thats not a good argument.
                    Where the **** are you reading this from ?.

                    Maybe I'm missing something ?. Help me out.
                    Last edited by NChristo; 12-28-2010, 04:53 PM.

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                    • Bullrush
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by NChristo
                      You lost me, how exactly is it a desperate attempt to hide facts exactly ?, I asked you a simple question and questioned the referee being legitimate and somehow you gathered that I hate Lewis and think Bowe would beat him ?, are you some form of psychic ?, because right now it seems like you're desperate to defend Lewis without me even saying anything negative about him.
                      no im not, im just trying to understand what everyone is talking about. everybody says bowe would have killed him and yet nobody even bothers to back anything they say up with something. so i dont understand why they say what theyve been saying thats all. and it seems to me like youre one of those guys, thats why i responded the way i responded.

                      i dont think the ref did anything wrong to be honest. lennox rocked him so many times that fight, bowe didnt know where he was at. he was stumblin around, got hit with multiple left hooks and big straights. what do you want the ref to do? like i said its the olympics and you got 2 giants in there. if you take these kinds of shots in the amateurs thats usually what happens, the ref steps in. its not pro boxing rules in the olympics. the refs step in immediately for the most part. what if the ref hadnt saved him? what would have stopped lennox from continuing to do what he did the minutes up until the ref stopped the fight? bowe was in trouble the entire time. he was gone, it was just a matter of time. i dont understand how you can say the ref was biased and basically just handed lennox a win

                      Originally posted by NChristo
                      Where the **** are you reading this from ?.

                      Maybe I'm missing something ?. Help me out.
                      well thats the impression i got from your responses, youre kinda defending bowe and made some statements that i just cant agree with like the one about the ref

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