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  • #21
    Originally posted by -Lightsout- View Post
    He tested positive fort anabolic steroids, Ripped fuel is just Jones explanation for the reason he tested positive. He has no evidence to support his explanation

    We all looked into this subject fairly recently and I put up a link. I cant find the thread though.........shame. But from memory both fighters tested positive for the same substance.

    It was not anabolic steroids though, it was an off the counter fat burner.

    Does anyone else remembers the thread?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
      Uuhmm a guy who was competitive with the best fighters in the world despite being well into his forties?
      He beat Harding to win the wbc lhw title. Harding was tough, but not very skilled.
      He held his own against Jones, but didnt dominate him
      he held his own against Toney, but did worse than he did in his two previous outings
      He was 40 years old when he retired

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
        It was not anabolic steroids though, it was an off the counter fat burner.
        Does anyone else remembers the thread?
        Neither Jones or Hall expected to get tested, because testing for steroids wouldnt start until 2002. The state of indiana was way ahead of the curve, testing that soon hence:
        FH: Boxing uses urinalysis to test fighters for illegal drugs, but when did the sport initially begin testing specifically for steroids?

        Goodman: That was proposed by [Then-commissioner] Flip Homansky at the time, and I think that it started in 2001 as a pilot program. There was a time where fighters were being educated. So it was in 2001 that the individuals were notified, and then in 2002 the testing was actually begun more uniformly.
        http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/01/0...le-for-boxing/

        An Exclusive Interview with Indiana Boxing Commissioner Jacob Hall (Part I)


        BRC: Let's move on to both fighters positive tests for anabolic steroids. As you well know there have been several versions of events; the Ripped Fuel version, the sinus medicine, etc. Can you clear it up for the fans? How specific are these tests and can you rule out... let's say the sinus medication, for instance?

        JHALL: Not from the information we received. The information we received indicated that Mr. Jones failed the drug test for anabolic steroids. Talking to Roy's attorney, Fred Levin, he indicated that Roy had taken a substance called Ripped Fuel, an over the counter supplement that is not illegal but is an illegal substance according to the IBF and the other sanctioning bodies. He admits that Roy took that. I have no knowledge that he took that or some other substance...

        BRC: Let me see if I'm understanding you correctly... You do know that there were anabolic steroids in Roy's system?

        JHALL: Yes.


        BRC: You do know that Ripped Fuel could possibly have been the cause of the positive test result?

        JHALL: Roy's attorney, Fred Levin said that Roy was taking that. I do not know that (Ripped Fuel) is what he was taking.


        BRC: We can't rule the Ripped Fuel out but we can't say that it was the only thing that could have caused Roy to test positive, is that correct?

        JHALL: Correct.
        http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/sarajhall1.html

        Dr. Margaret Goodman: A Doctor with a Conscience


        BRC: What do you know about Ripped Fuel and is this something commonly used by boxers?

        DR. GOODMAN: I think that Ripped Fuel used to be used a lot... Ripped Fuel is illegal in our state; it's illegal because it has Ephedra in it... Anyone that take Ephedra, it doesn't have to be a boxer, you or I, would be placing themselves at risk of a heart attack or a stroke. When you combine that with someone having to undergo the extreme regiment that a boxer has to undergo, and top that with being in the ring even for four rounds, putting all that stress on the body, you are really setting yourself up for a serious problem.
        http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/saramgoodman1.html


        Marian Muhammad Speaks Out on Roy Jones and the Steroids Issue...

        Muhammad: Well, I only know that on Richard Hall we got nothing but I have a positive test from Roy Jones, Jr. that was directed to Mr. Jake Hall at the Indiana Boxing Commission, indicating that Mr. Jones tested positive for anabolic steroids.


        BRC: I realize that 2-1/2 years have gone by, and perhaps you don't remember... but I have copies of the letters sent by the IBF to Richard Hall and to Roy Jones, and they both bare your signature, as then Secretary of the organization...

        Muhammad: That's correct and there was also another one that Ms. Knight herself asked me to send... She asked me to send them, (the letters), I sent them. Then she herself sent one to ... it was directed to Roy Jones telling him that she hadn't heard from him about the results from Specimen B and that she was directing him to contact this office no later than the close of business on Friday, August 25, 2000.
        http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/saramuhammad.html

        As I said before, the Ripped fuel explanation is just Jones explanation. Just like Toney's explanation for the failed test is just Toneys explanation

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        • #24
          Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
          Lennox Lewis
          Mike Tyson
          Michael Moorer
          George Foreman
          Evander Holyfield
          David Haye
          Vitali Klitschko
          Wlad Klitschko
          Floyd Mayweather
          Fernando Vargas
          Shannon Briggs
          James Toney
          Roy Jones
          Tommy Morrison
          this list plus Mosley, Pacquiao and Tomasz Adamek

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          • #25
            Originally posted by El Cabron View Post
            this list plus Mosley, Pacquiao and Tomasz Adamek
            Yeah i agree add those 3 as well

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            • #26
              Originally posted by -Lightsout- View Post
              He beat Harding to win the wbc lhw title. Harding was tough, but not very skilled.
              He held his own against Jones, but didnt dominate him
              he held his own against Toney, but did worse than he did in his two previous outings
              He was 40 years old when he retired
              Whatever. He was old and was competitive with top fighters. Su****ious don't you think especially given that the guys he fought themselves are heavy suspects themselves.

              Sidenote: Rumour has it that McCallum was somewhat older than his 'official' age.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                I find it hard to think of any champion in the past 20 years who was definetely NOT juicing.
                Best posting in this thread so far!

                I think at the top of the world almost everone is juicing! But there is no juice that makes a b-level fighter can a super star. It can give you the edge in a close fight but it won't help you to beat a fighter which got much mor skill and talent than you.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                  Whatever. He was old and was competitive with top fighters. Su****ious don't you think especially given that the guys he fought themselves are heavy suspects themselves.

                  Sidenote: Rumour has it that McCallum was somewhat older than his 'official' age.
                  Archie Moore was still a world champion in his mid-40s and was also suspected of being a few years older than he claimed. That doesn't mean he was on roids.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Kid McCoy View Post
                    Archie Moore was still a world champion in his mid-40s and was also suspected of being a few years older than he claimed. That doesn't mean he was on roids.
                    That's true. There are not many of Moore's kind in boxing history though and when someone like him turns up in these days of sophisticated drugs, he'll be su****ious. I'm not saying that McCallum DID juice but, like many others, he's su****ious for sure.

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                    • #30
                      Pacqiao
                      Mosley
                      Holyfield

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