Rating Juan Manuel Marquez historically

[SCtrojansbaby]

No reason to pinpoint exactly where he is.

Top 10 of this decade
Top 10 Mexican of all time

[CarlosG815]

Hamed never dominated anything other than his trouser worm (when he could find it). But he COULD Dumbo a run for his money :rolleyes9:

Poet

While I do disagree, as I am a fan of Hamed and I do believe he could dominate a lot of fighters, I don't see any way that he could beat a guy as skilled in boxing as JMM.

If Hamed liked boxing and had a serious training camp to prepare for JMM, there is no doubt he would probably knock him out.

[BigStereotype]

There is actually so much ****** within this thread from both sides that I couldn't even begin to try and argue with it. JMM is a great fighter. Inarguable. JMM is a future HOFer. Inarguable. ATG? Ranked above Barrera and Morales? Thoroughly arguable. It depends what you consider an ATG and if you have to label it with definitive numbers. I personally don't feel you need to place numbers on a fighter's head. BUT, if you do, and say you consider only guys on a top 50 list are ATGs, then no. He's not a top 50 fighter of all time, that I can find a place for in that list.

Top 100 list, is still arguable, but I can personally see a lot of arguable cases rationally being in the top 51-100 fighters of all time. Marquez would be one of those places for me. I consider him the equivalent to EM and MAB on a H2H basis but his resume doesn't stack up for me to rank him over them. And I'm a big fan of his too. He's only lost one decision that it's been in arguably clear he's lost and he's never been stopped. He's a terrific fighter who could hold his own with nearly any Featherweight or Super Featherweight that ever lived, I think.

Thank you. Probably the best response and I can't find anything I disagree with. I still rank him ahead of Morales and Barrera, but I can totally see why somebody wouldn't.

[The_Demon]

Hes a top 100 ATG for me and one of my favourite fighters out there,i rank him alongside EM and MAB,hard to split them imo