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  • #11
    Originally posted by BennyST View Post
    Huh?

    The guy that fought Mayweather and later Pac was not the same at all as the one that fought at 147 against Quartey/Whitaker/Chavez etc. That was a classic boxer, very fast hands, combo's, moved very well, good stamina and great jab, with a huge punch too, whereas the guy that fought Mayweather had really turned into a pretty straight forward boxer/puncher and the one that fought Pac was.....well.....pretty **** actually.

    It would have been nice to see how Mayweather responded to the version of Oscar that fought Quartey, Whitaker. A guy with super fast hands, could throw multiple punch combo's, had a hard, fast, consistent jab, had good stamina....he was a great fighter at that stage.

    By Mayweather he had become a good fighter and then by Pac he was little more than a contender with past name value. No jab, no combo's at all, no movement, no stamina, was slow as hell.

    Do you think he was the same fighter or something or hadn't lost much?
    OK.. i don't think Pacquiao would have much trouble with the kind of fighter you describe who has fast hands etc after viewing his sparring session with Amir Khan as they don't come much faster than him and Freddie Roach saying Pacquiao is on a different level to Khan.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by BennyST View Post
      The one style Floyd hasn't beaten is the classic boxer. A Ray Leonard, Vernon Forrest, Winky Wright, Roy Jones (for guys of today) type of guy. Judah was fast and slick but not very solid and focused. Oscar of old (ie the early 147 version) would have made me happy he could adjust to all styles and overcome someone fast with a solid, long jab and left hook.

      It's one of the few styles that is really slowly dying in boxing today. You occasionally get a decent one but they are becoming fewer and fewer. The ones that do come up to be champion are also getting worse and worse. There are still a few decent ones around, but they are becoming a real rarity. The Ward's, Mayweathers, Jones', Leonard's, etc.

      Does anyone else see boxing becoming more and more a one style sort of affair? Of course it never will be that, but each division is not nearly as eclectic and mixed with every imaginable style of great fighter as it used to be.

      It's what the two great fighters of today are missing from their resumes. They are both missing a great classic boxer of skill and speed, though fighting each other would just about erase all that. Though Pac is still a pretty straight forward aggressive guy with holes in his defense, but his speed and offensive capabilities make up for it.

      I think you have to show you can beat all styles, and the great fighters in all styles to really be among the best ever.
      You know a guy who has beaten all styles? Fighting Harada. He beat your brilliant all around boxer/puncher in Jofre, your tall classic boxer in Pone Kingpetch, hard punching fast southpaw; Hiroyuki Ebihara, crafty skilled boxer/puncher in Jose medel, textbook boxer Alan Rudkin etc.

      Roberto Duran is the most obvious guy though that has genuinely fought and beaten every single imaginable style of great fighter from your super slick fast counter puncher, your tall, fast, moving boxer, to straight ahead brawlers, slick jabbers, fast boxer punchers, southpaws, huge punchers, little fast guys, big fast guys, big brawlers, literally everything.

      Julio Cesar Chavez is another guy that's fought every style.
      quality post, especially the bold part

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      • #13
        Other than Leonard and Mayweather who were already mentioned, maybe someone like Lennox Lewis beat allot of styles. A puncher in Briggs tua mercer and Morrison, swarmer in Tyson, all round kinda guy like Holyfield and a few boxers aswell.

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