Who do you rank as the higher jimmy young or Jimmy Ellis?

[Joey Giardello]

I find both fighters hard to split

[Scott9945]

Ellis was the better all around fighter, but Young was probably a more difficult opponent to fight.

[Tiozzo]

Young beat young Foreman, fat Ali (robbed of a win), arguably beat Norton, beat Lyle, arguably beat Occasio the first time.

Right there, you have 2 top 5 heavyweight AT in Foreman and Ali, and 1 top 25 AT in Norton.

Not a ****er, but a good counterpuncher with a great chin who didn't neglect to go to the body. He was tough to hit.

One of my favorites actually.

He was used as a stepping stone at the end of his career.
He was better than his record indicates. If I had to resume his career, I would call it unlucky, unfortunate.

I won't break down Ellis, I don't know enough about him. Looking at his record, I can say he didn't perform as well as Young against top competition, and he was lucky to get a piece of the HW crown. His best win is Quarry.

I would rank Young ahead of Ellis based on achievements and talent.

[Obama]

Young all day every day. His resume is better even w/ two "gift" decisions going Ellis' way (Quarry & Patterson [Can't speak on the Quarry fight from personal experience]) while he himself was robbed against Ali and Norton (saw both). He prolly deserved to beat the extremely technically limited Earnie Shavers in the rematch as well. First fight shouldn't even count, Young was green as grass. I have no idea what happened in the rematch but I just can't see Earnie Shavers deserving to beat anyone good after 10 rounds if it goes to the cards.

[Scott9945]

Young all day every day. His resume is better even w/ two "gift" decisions going Ellis' way (Quarry & Patterson [Can't speak on the Quarry fight from personal experience]) while he himself was robbed against Ali and Norton (saw both). He prolly deserved to beat the extremely technically limited Earnie Shavers in the rematch as well. First fight shouldn't even count, Young was green as grass. I have no idea what happened in the rematch but I just can't see Earnie Shavers deserving to beat anyone good after 10 rounds if it goes to the cards.

I saw the Ellis-Quarry fight. Neither of them fought that well, but Ellis deserved the decision and there was no controversy over it. Quarry later claimed that he fought with a broken back.

[Obama]

I saw the Ellis-Quarry fight. Neither of them fought that well, but Ellis deserved the decision and there was no controversy over it. Quarry later claimed that he fought with a broken back.

If you have the fight, sharing is caring.

[Scott9945]

If you have the fight, sharing is caring.

Sorry, but I don't. I've been watching fights for a long time and actually saw that one live on ABC. I wish you luck finding it, but from my memory it was the worst fight of a pretty good tournament.

[sonnyboyx2]

Young beat young Foreman, fat Ali (robbed of a win), arguably beat Norton, beat Lyle, arguably beat Occasio the first time.

Right there, you have 2 top 5 heavyweight AT in Foreman and Ali, and 1 top 25 AT in Norton.

Not a ****er, but a good counterpuncher with a great chin who didn't neglect to go to the body. He was tough to hit.

One of my favorites actually.

He was used as a stepping stone at the end of his career.
He was better than his record indicates. If I had to resume his career, I would call it unlucky, unfortunate.

I won't break down Ellis, I don't know enough about him. Looking at his record, I can say he didn't perform as well as Young against top competition, and he was lucky to get a piece of the HW crown. His best win is Quarry.

I would rank Young ahead of Ellis based on achievements and talent.

you need to go away and watch those fights you claim Young won or was robbed in... Muhammad Ali easily beat Young with Young holding his head out of the ring repeatedly so that Ali could not KO him, Foreman was the clear winner against Young as was Norton.. Jimmy Young is very over rated with his only claim to fame being that he got a very dubious decision over Foreman

[Tiozzo]

you need to go away and watch those fights you claim Young won or was robbed in... Muhammad Ali easily beat Young with Young holding his head out of the ring repeatedly so that Ali could not KO him, Foreman was the clear winner against Young as was Norton.. Jimmy Young is very over rated with his only claim to fame being that he got a very dubious decision over Foreman

here comes agenda man

virtually everybody with half a brain know that Young was robbed when he fought an out of shape Ali


sticking his head out of the ring was a disgraceful tactic, but the fight is scored round by round, and round by round, Young definitely beat Ali

and as I said, Young was on the bad end of decisions that could have gone his way many times

I give no value whatsoever to your opinion, you have too much bias

you should go away, but you won't, fulfilling your agenda is a never ending task

[sonnyboyx2]

here comes agenda man

virtually everybody with half a brain know that Young was robbed when he fought an out of shape Ali


sticking his head out of the ring was a disgraceful tactic, but the fight is scored round by round, and round by round, Young definitely beat Ali

and as I said, Young was on the bad end of decisions that could have gone his way many times

I give no value whatsoever to your opinion, you have too much bias

you should go away, but you won't, fulfilling your agenda is a never ending task

Agenda?.... tell me what my agenda is..