Who you regard as the 2nd greatest P4P?

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  • SBleeder
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    #11
    Originally posted by project xxx1
    dont red k me for this but im going for iron mike tyson

    i grew up watching all his fights,iron mike
    ^^^^^^^^

    That's why I'm so vocal about Mike Tyson.

    How could anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the fight game think he deserves to be ranked up there with Robinson, Greb, Armstrong, etc.? It's mind-boggling.

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    • RubenSonny
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      #12
      I just havea top 3 in any order but id probably put it like this if i had to.
      1.Robinson
      2.Langford
      3.Greb

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      • HaglerSteelChin
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        #13
        I think you can make arguments for those 6 guys being #2, so not much seperates them. Some put Greb and Langford high due to the fact they fought and won with a blind eye, and often beat opponents much bigger than them.

        Willie Pep, who i did a typo with that extra P, had one of the greatest records in the history of the sport and possibly the most celebrated defensive fighter in the history of the sport.

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        • Sugarj
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          #14
          Originally posted by "Marvelous"
          I don't like it D:


          Fair enough. I wouldn't argue with anyone citing Armstrong as a superb choice.

          Of those listed Ali or Pep would be hard to split for me, they are all legends. But I stand by my choice of Roy Jones Jnr, For 10 years that guy was near as dammit untouchable and vastly superior to his opposition, I've never seen skills like his in all my years of following the sport.

          Theres plenty of newbies who might have watched the last five or six years of his career and wonder what all the fuss is about, but prime Jones was phenominal and his prime was not too short either.

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          • Barn
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            #15
            Originally posted by Sugarj
            Fair enough. I wouldn't argue with anyone citing Armstrong as a superb choice.

            Of those listed Ali or Pep would be hard to split for me, they are all legends. But I stand by my choice of Roy Jones Jnr, For 10 years that guy was near as dammit untouchable and vastly superior to his opposition, I've never seen skills like his in all my years of following the sport.

            Theres plenty of newbies who might have watched the last five or six years of his career and wonder what all the fuss is about, but prime Jones was phenominal and his prime was not too short either.
            So you are not taking resume into account?

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            • T.McGrady
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              #16
              I'll go with roy...nah Ali is my choice.

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              • Sugarj
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                #17
                Originally posted by "Marvelous"
                So you are not taking resume into account?

                I probably have a skills bias if I'm honest......its probably why I'd favour Pep and Ali over the others too. Its probably how I primarily evaluate 'pound for pound'. Rightly or wrongly I look at the classification as who would likely prevail if size and weight were not a factor, but I wouldn't criticise anyone to have differing views on this.

                I do of course rate resume, but I dont think Jones has a bad resume at all, granted its not as good as the others listed, but his division hopping was impressive (Champion at middleweight, super middleweight, Light heavyweight, heavyweight and again at light heavyweight over the best part of a decade), as was his domination of the opposition......and his winning record isn't without the odd future hall of famer too.

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                • DET. IRONSIDE
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                  #18
                  I'm voting Willie Pep I dunno the 20s too well in terms of history and I think he's the best on the list.

                  I'd put Ali and Armstrong behind him.

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                  • CarlosG815
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Sugarj
                    Like it or not I'd go for Roy Jones jnr.
                    As would I.

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                    • Barn
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by CarlosG815
                      As would I.
                      Why?

                      The only possible way I could see it is if you were ranking your fighters based purely on Height To Height match-ups and skill. Other-wise he is only just in the Top 50.

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