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  • Grade these Supermiddleweights

    The fighters: Nunn, Jones, Toney, Benn, Eubank
    In terms of: power, skillset, handspeed, footspeed,defense, offense
    The grading system 1-10
    For example:
    Toney:
    Power:7
    Handspeed:8
    Footspeed:6
    Defense:10
    Offense:7
    Skillset:10

    Responses please

  • #2
    Benn
    Power:10
    Handspeed:7
    Footspeed:6
    Defense:6
    Offense:9
    Skillset:7

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    • #3
      James "Lights Out" Toney

      Power:9
      Handspeed:7
      Footspeed:6
      Defense:10
      Offense:8
      Skillset:10
      Intelligence:10
      Durability:10

      Michael "Second To" Nunn

      Power:8
      Handspeed:10
      Footspeed:10
      Defense:9
      Offense:9
      Skillset:10
      Intelligence:8
      Durability:7

      Roy Jones Jr.

      Power:9
      Handspeed:10
      Footspeed:9
      Defense:10
      Offense:9
      Skillset:9
      Intelligence:10
      Durability:7

      Chris "Simply The Best" Eubank

      Power:8
      Handspeed:7
      Footspeed:8
      Defense:8
      Offense:7
      Skillset:7
      Intelligence:9
      Durability:10

      Nigel "The Dark Destoryer" Benn

      Power:10
      Handspeed:8
      Footspeed:8
      Defense:8
      Offense:9
      Skillset:6
      Intelligence:6
      Durability:6

      Michael Watson

      Power:7
      Handspeed:8
      Footspeed:8
      Defense:8
      Offense:7
      Skillset:8
      Intelligence:9
      Durability:7

      Gerald "G-Man" McClellan

      Power:10
      Handspeed:9
      Footspeed:7
      Defense:6
      Offense:10
      Skillset:7
      Intelligence:6
      Durability:9

      1. Roy Jones Jr. - 73p
      2. Michael Nunn - 71p
      3. James Toney - 70p
      4. Chris Eubank - 64p
      4. Gerald McClellan - 64p
      6. Michael Watson - 62p
      7. Nigel Benn - 61p

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      • #4
        I'm gonna go with #1 assassin's style of grading as he has included some important factors along with the TS original post.

        Also, i base my grades on Middleweight accomplishments as most fought their primes there.

        James Toney

        Power: 8
        Handspeed: 8
        Footspeed: 6
        Defense: 10
        Offense: 7
        Skillset: 10
        Intelligence: 9
        Durability: 10

        Michael Nunn

        Power: 8
        Handspeed: 10
        Footspeed: 9
        Defense: 9
        Offense: 9
        Skillset: 10
        Intelligence: 8
        Durability: 7

        Roy Jones Jr.

        Power: 9
        Handspeed: 10
        Footspeed: 9
        Defense: 9
        Offense: 9
        Skillset: 9
        Intelligence: 10
        Durability:7

        Chris Eubank

        Power: 8
        Handspeed: 8
        Footspeed: 8
        Defense: 8
        Offense: 8
        Skillset: 9
        Intelligence: 9
        Durability: 10

        Nigel Benn

        Power: 10
        Handspeed: 8
        Footspeed: 8
        Defense: 8
        Offense: 10
        Skillset: 6
        Intelligence: 6
        Durability: 9

        Michael Watson

        Power: 8
        Handspeed: 8
        Footspeed: 8
        Defense: 8
        Offense: 7
        Skillset: 8
        Intelligence: 9
        Durability: 8

        Gerald McClellan
        Power: 10
        Handspeed: 9
        Footspeed: 8
        Defense: 7
        Offense: 10
        Skillset: 8
        Intelligence: 7
        Durability: 9



        1. Roy Jones Jr. - 72
        2. Michael Nunn - 70
        3. James Toney - 68
        3. Chris Eubank - 68
        3. Gerald McClellan - 68
        6. Nigel Benn - 65
        7. Michael Watson - 64

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        • #5
          Chris Eubank's handspeed was extremely quick in his prime, single shots and dazzling combinations. I'd put him behind only Jones and Nunn from the fighters listed.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by -LightsOut- View Post
            The fighters: Nunn, Jones, Toney, Benn, Eubank
            In terms of: power, skillset, handspeed, footspeed,defense, offense
            The grading system 1-10
            For example:
            Toney:
            Power:7
            Handspeed:8
            Footspeed:6
            Defense:10
            Offense:7
            Skillset:10
            Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
            James "Lights Out" Toney
            Power:9
            Handspeed:7
            Footspeed:6
            Defense:10
            Offense:8
            Skillset:10
            Intelligence:10
            Durability:10
            Toney was never a big puncher at mw or smw, he tended to wear you down and stop you late in the fight. Which is why I rated his power so low, but thanks for responding and all the extra info you added in your gradings

            I would like to say Thanks to everyone who posted in this thread. I was hoping to see, if there was some kind of way to see if certain matchups were bad for certain fighters

            For example Toney vs Jones matchup:
            Jones advantages
            Power:+1
            Handspeed:+3
            Footspeed:+3
            Defense:0
            Offense:+1
            Skillset:-1
            Intelligence:0
            Durability:-3
            Overall:4
            Toneys advantages
            Power:-1
            Handspeed:-3
            Footspeed:-3
            Defense:0
            Offense:-1
            Skillset:+1
            Intelligence:0
            Durability:+3
            Overall:-4
            For Toney this is a bad match up on paper and history bears this out as well

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
              Chris Eubank's handspeed was extremely quick in his prime, single shots and dazzling combinations. I'd put him behind only Jones and Nunn from the fighters listed.
              I watched the Eubank-Watson I the other day, Chris had great handspeed at mw, but he did slow down at smw. Most probably the effects of the wars and draining to make weight.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by -LightsOut- View Post
                I watched the Eubank-Watson I the other day, Chris had great handspeed at mw, but he did slow down at smw. Most probably the effects of the wars and draining to make weight.


                Even at Supermiddle I thought particularly in the Wharton and Thornton fights that Chris was very very quick.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
                  1. Roy Jones Jr. - 73p
                  2. Michael Nunn - 71p
                  3. James Toney - 70p
                  4. Chris Eubank - 64p
                  4. Gerald McClellan - 64p
                  6. Michael Watson - 62p
                  7. Nigel Benn - 61p
                  Originally posted by black.ink View Post
                  1. Roy Jones Jr. - 72
                  2. Michael Nunn - 70
                  3. James Toney - 68
                  3. Chris Eubank - 68
                  3. Gerald McClellan - 68
                  6. Nigel Benn - 65
                  7. Michael Watson - 64
                  With now ended up with a kind of h2h list
                  I think that G-man beats Jones
                  Jones-Nunn 50/50
                  Nunn should of beat Toney and he would have if he listened to his trainer(Dundee)
                  Thanks again to everyone who contributed, I will use this idea again in the near future
                  Last edited by Toney616; 09-18-2010, 05:58 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
                    Even at Supermiddle I thought particularly in the Wharton and Thornton fights that Chris was very very quick.
                    I downloaded the wharton fight but i have watched it yet. Not sure If ill bother with the Punching postmans fight, lol

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