Where Do You Rank Muhammad Ali's Resume Amongst the ATG Heavyweights?

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  • VibesMan
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    #11
    Originally posted by JoeyZagz
    Evander Holyfield > Frazier
    Vitali Klitschko ≈ George Foreman
    Frank Bruno > Ron Lyle
    David Tua > Jerry Quarry
    Mike Tyson > Floyd Patterson
    Oliver Mccall > Oscar Bonavea

    Its like a whos who of the 1990's. This mystery fighter also gave Bowe the only tko loss of his life.
    Ive just re read this your ******ity is first class.

    Ur suggesting that the Holyfield who fought Lewis is better than Frazier?
    The shell that was Tyson was better than the Patterson who fought Ali?
    The Mcall that Lewis beat that night was probably worse than just about any fringe heavweight contender in the history of boxing.

    That's about as delusional as I think I've even seen.

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    • sonnyboyx2
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      #12
      Originally posted by JoeyZagz
      Evander Holyfield > Frazier
      Vitali Klitschko ≈ George Foreman
      Frank Bruno > Ron Lyle
      David Tua > Jerry Quarry
      Mike Tyson > Floyd Patterson
      Oliver Mccall > Oscar Bonavea

      Its like a whos who of the 1990's. This mystery fighter also gave Bowe the only tko loss of his life.
      These are JoeyZagz own words on the Bowe tko:

      The referee was disgraceful and robbed the fans of a great finish. He definitely had it in for Bowe.

      Yet here he is the next day using that corrupt fight as leverage in the idolization of his hero trying to claim his hero is better than Muhammad Ali also using these as similarities

      Evander Holyfield > Frazier
      Vitali Klitschko ≈ George Foreman
      Frank Bruno > Ron Lyle
      David Tua > Jerry Quarry
      Mike Tyson > Floyd Patterson
      Oliver Mccall > Oscar Bonavea

      Frazier would KO Holyfield as he is far better than Bert Cooper
      Foreman would massacre Vitali Klitschko
      Lyle would hammer Frank Bruno into the ground
      Quarry the brilliant counter-puncher would KO Tua
      Tyson was more than a decade past his best in 2003
      Bonavena would be far too much for any version of McCall

      You need councelling for your nuthugging

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      • Joeyzagz
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        #13
        Originally posted by VibesMan
        Ive just re read this your ******ity is first class.

        Ur suggesting that the Holyfield who fought Lewis is better than Frazier?
        The shell that was Tyson was better than the Patterson who fought Ali?
        The Mcall that Lewis beat that night was probably worse than just about any fringe heavweight contender in the history of boxing.

        That's about as delusional as I think I've even seen.
        1996-2000 Holyfield was probably stronger than Superman himself with all the steroids and HGH he was injecting during that time. I rank Holyfield higher than Frazier all-time as do many other fans.

        Tyson is a more devastatingly awesome version of Patterson. Patterson had already been brutally KO'd thrice when Ali met him so I think its an apt comparison. I rank Tyson ahead of Patterson all-time as do many other fans.

        Mccall has a better chin than anyone Ali has ever faced, possibly the greatest of all time. 66 fights in a SUPER_HEAVYWEIGHT division and the guy hasnt even been down once. Unlike Bonenva he actually won the title.

        I didnt say Vitali was "equal" to Foreman, but they are definitely comparable. Foreman has the better resume' but Vitali has the highest KO% of all time. An old Lennox grinding it out against the #1 Ko machine in the sport is comparable to what Ali did against 220 lb Foreman.

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          #14
          Originally posted by JoeyZagz
          Evander Holyfield > Frazier
          Vitali Klitschko ≈ George Foreman
          Frank Bruno > Ron Lyle
          David Tua > Jerry Quarry
          Mike Tyson > Floyd Patterson
          Oliver Mccall > Oscar Bonavea

          Its like a whos who of the 1990's. This mystery fighter also gave Bowe the only tko loss of his life.
          IMo your wrong. I thin atleast 2 of those fighters win those fights

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          • NChristo
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            #15
            Originally posted by JoeyZagz

            Mccall has a better chin than anyone Ali has ever faced

            George Chuvalo has just as great a chin.

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              #16
              Originally posted by NChristo
              George Chuvalo has just as great a chin.
              Foreman even had a better chin he had a atg freat chin

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                #17
                Originally posted by JoeyZagz
                1996-2000 Holyfield was probably stronger than Superman himself with all the steroids and HGH he was injecting during that time. I rank Holyfield higher than Frazier all-time as do many other fans.

                Tyson is a more devastatingly awesome version of Patterson. Patterson had already been brutally KO'd thrice when Ali met him so I think its an apt comparison. I rank Tyson ahead of Patterson all-time as do many other fans.

                Mccall has a better chin than anyone Ali has ever faced, possibly the greatest of all time. 66 fights in a SUPER_HEAVYWEIGHT division and the guy hasnt even been down once. Unlike Bonenva he actually won the title.

                I didnt say Vitali was "equal" to Foreman, but they are definitely comparable. Foreman has the better resume' but Vitali has the highest KO% of all time. An old Lennox grinding it out against the #1 Ko machine in the sport is comparable to what Ali did against 220 lb Foreman.
                Your knowledge of boxing must be very limited for you to turn every single thread into a Lennox Lewis thread.. for you to claim Lewis resume better or the equal of Muhammad Ali's is laughable, Ali fought and beat a who's who of the division over an 18yrs period

                Frazier (thrice)
                Norton (thrice)
                Quarry (twice
                Shavers
                Folley
                Liston (twice
                Patterson (twice)
                Bugner (twice)
                Lyle
                Foreman
                Terrell
                Williams
                Cooper (twice)
                Mac Foster
                Bob Foster
                L.Spinks (twice)
                Bonavena
                Mathis
                Chuvalo (twice)
                Jimmy Young

                Lewis resume

                McCall (twice) Lewis got poleaxed 1st fight
                Rahman (twice) Lewis got poleaxed 1st fight
                Tyson - decade past best, losses to Williams & McBride proof
                Holyfield (twice) draw & disputable dec. Holy yrs past best
                Tua - Fattest man to ever fight for title
                Bruno
                Mason
                Botha
                Briggs
                V.Klitschko - fortunate cuts victory
                Mercer - debatable victory
                Ruddock
                Golota

                Lewis resume pales in comparison to Muhammad Ali's resume... Evander Holyfield has a far better resume than Lewis

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                • r.burgundy
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                  #18
                  i put him #2 behind evander

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                  • Joeyzagz
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                    Your knowledge of boxing must be very limited for you to turn every single thread into a Lennox Lewis thread.. for you to claim Lewis resume better or the equal of Muhammad Ali's is laughable, Ali fought and beat a who's who of the division over an 18yrs period

                    Frazier (thrice)
                    Norton (thrice)
                    Quarry (twice
                    Shavers
                    Folley
                    Liston (twice
                    Patterson (twice)
                    Bugner (twice)
                    Lyle
                    Foreman
                    Terrell
                    Williams
                    Cooper (twice)
                    Mac Foster
                    Bob Foster
                    L.Spinks (twice)
                    Bonavena
                    Mathis
                    Chuvalo (twice)
                    Jimmy Young

                    Lewis resume

                    McCall (twice) Lewis got poleaxed 1st fight
                    Rahman (twice) Lewis got poleaxed 1st fight
                    Tyson - decade past best, losses to Williams & McBride proof
                    Holyfield (twice) draw & disputable dec. Holy yrs past best
                    Tua - Fattest man to ever fight for title
                    Bruno
                    Mason
                    Botha
                    Briggs
                    V.Klitschko - fortunate cuts victory
                    Mercer - debatable victory
                    Ruddock
                    Golota

                    Lewis resume pales in comparison to Muhammad Ali's resume... Evander Holyfield has a far better resume than Lewis
                    Funny how you reach for every negative slight when going through Lennox's resume' and then have the audacity to leave out theLeon Spinks debacle, when concerning Ali.

                    Its not very hard for me to do the same thing you do; Ali's resume' is riddled with holes, dubious wins and smelling salts. I wont list them all here because I respect him as a person, but if we pick through it with a fine toothed comb its a lot more sketchy than Lennox.

                    For the record I think Ali's resume' Top to bottom is better than Lennox, but comparing their 4 or 5 best opponents there is not that much of a gap .

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                    • Calilloyd
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by JoeyZagz
                      Evander Holyfield > Frazier
                      Vitali Klitschko ≈ George Foreman
                      Frank Bruno > Ron Lyle
                      David Tua > Jerry Quarry
                      Mike Tyson > Floyd Patterson
                      Oliver Mccall > Oscar Bonavea

                      Its like a whos who of the 1990's. This mystery fighter also gave Bowe the only tko loss of his life.
                      I couldn't take you seriously after that...... and Quarry's resume craps all over Tua's
                      Last edited by Calilloyd; 09-05-2010, 03:05 PM.

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