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  • How Great Was Stanley Ketchel?

    In your opinion?

  • #2
    An all-time great, and one of the most deadly punchers ever. I rank him #53 all time pound-for-pound.

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    • #3
      what did he accomplish? who was on his resume.. what did they accomplish?

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      • #4
        won 51 (KO 48) + lost 4 (KO 2) + drawn 4

        By the time he was 24.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Post
          won 51 (KO 48) + lost 4 (KO 2) + drawn 4

          By the time he was 24.
          chavez jr is 41 and 0 with 30 and 1 draw and he is 24

          records dont mean anything

          accomplishments and resume i asked for

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          • #6
            Originally posted by GAME2010 View Post
            chavez jr is 41 and 0 with 30 and 1 draw and he is 24

            records dont mean anything

            accomplishments and resume i asked for
            world welter weight and world middle weight title holder

            fought a near prime (prior to the jeffreis bout) jack johnson for 12 with a 35 lb weight disadvantage and even knocked him down.

            fought a prime 27 yo lanford for 6 rounds and if they had fought again he probly would have won with news papers reporting the fight with 7 saying langford won 4 saying ketchel and 2 with a draw.

            fought philly jack obrien twice won both (who beat bob fitz for the light heavyweight title 4 years earlier)

            and he didnt even enter his prime years.
            Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 08-23-2010, 05:16 AM.

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            • #7
              He cleaned out what was then considered a very strong middleweight division. A great middleweight, one of the very best.

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              • #8
                When I was a kid, my neighbor who was an old timer. Would swear up and down that Stanley Ketchell was the greatest MW of all time. I don't think so but he really believed it.

                Ketchell was a great fighter, and a great MW. But, I would rank Greb, SRR, Monzon, Hagler, and Lamotta ahead of him at MW.

                I would probably rank Ketchell ahead of Hopkins though. Maybe.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ruby Robert View Post
                  world welter weight and world middle weight title holder

                  fought a near prime (prior to the jeffreis bout) jack johnson for 12 with a 35 lb weight disadvantage and even knocked him down.

                  fought a prime 27 yo lanford for 6 rounds and if they had fought again he probly would have won with news papers reporting the fight with 7 saying langford won 4 saying ketchel and 2 with a draw.

                  fought philly jack obrien twice won both (who beat bob fitz for the light heavyweight title 4 years earlier)

                  and he didnt even enter his prime years.
                  The Papke wins we good ones too.

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                  • #10
                    There were arguably three middleweights in the pound for pound top 10 at the beginning of Ketchel's assent to dominance, and he beat them all, by knockout, over an 18 month perioid.

                    This arguably made him p4p #1 in an era that included Gans and Walcott - top 15 pound for pound contenders, all time, both.

                    Ketchel was great.

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