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  • #11
    Originally posted by Crisp Jab View Post
    So he'd be dropped but regain senses? Wound't Rock pounce on him similar to Lewis & finish the job?
    He wouldnt necessarily be dropped but if Rahman could land one of his best shots he could in theory drop him but he'd struggle to land that right hand flush on a bobbing Frazier and Finishing a lump like Lennox and finishing a pure fighter like Frazier are two totally different matters

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    • #12
      East fight for Frazier. He wins within 3.

      Rahman was never that good. He's a decent fighter, but nothing more than a glorified journeyman who got one of the biggest fluke victories in boxing history.

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      • #13
        Just interesting due to if Bonavena can drop & hurt Frazier, what would happen if Rahman can tag him flush? & Rahman hits harder than Bonavena.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Crisp Jab View Post
          Just interesting due to if Bonavena can drop & hurt Frazier, what would happen if Rahman can tag him flush? & Rahman hits harder than Bonavena.
          He might knock him down.

          But Joe Frazier got up 6 times in two rounds against the man I think hit the hardest in all of boxing history. A more aggressive fighter with better accuracy and power that trapped Joe by the ropes several times was not able to finish Joe Frazier despite constantly beating on him for two rounds. The fight had to be ended by the ref.

          So he's not getting a knockout. Oh no, it takes a far better man to knock out Smokin' Joe.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Capaedia View Post
            He might knock him down.

            But Joe Frazier got up 6 times in two rounds against the man I think hit the hardest in all of boxing history. A more aggressive fighter with better accuracy and power that trapped Joe by the ropes several times was not able to finish Joe Frazier despite constantly beating on him for two rounds. The fight had to be ended by the ref.

            So he's not getting a knockout. Oh no, it takes a far better man to knock out Smokin' Joe.
            Yeah, but then again it dosent always work like that. Foreman is the way harder puncher, but Rock might just land a temple shot or then again he might just do what Foreman did and when Joe does get up finish him off.

            Am not saying Rahman beats Frazier, just looking at a fairly unlikely but not impossible outcome.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Crisp Jab View Post
              Yeah, but then again it dosent always work like that. Foreman is the way harder puncher, but Rock might just land a temple shot or then again he might just do what Foreman did and when Joe does get up finish him off.

              Am not saying Rahman beats Frazier, just looking at a fairly unlikely but not impossible outcome.
              Well may as well say he COULD beat Muhammad Ali then, or COULD beat Foreman, at that stage.

              I don't think he can finish him off, George tried his hardest and simply could not do it, even with another 5 knockdowns, I don't see why Rahman would have any more luck with it to a reasonably discussible extent.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Capaedia View Post
                Well may as well say he COULD beat Muhammad Ali then, or COULD beat Foreman, at that stage.

                I don't think he can finish him off, George tried his hardest and simply could not do it, even with another 5 knockdowns, I don't see why Rahman would have any more luck with it to a reasonably discussible extent.
                And my point just because Foreman cound't KO Frazier, (he did TKO him do) dosen't mean no else has a chance. For example.....

                Lennox Lewis or Mike Tyson cound't KO Tony Tucker but yet Bruce Seldon could. You see my points, KO boxing maths don't always work.

                Rahman might catch him with a different type of shot or finsih him off different.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Crisp Jab View Post
                  And my point just because Foreman cound't KO Frazier, (he did TKO him do) dosen't mean no else has a chance. For example.....
                  The TKO was by referee stoppage. I think he should have done it before Frazier was knocked down 6 times. Teddy Atlas screamed for the fight to be stopped during the first round, sometime after the second knockdown I believe. You can actually hear him in the fight audio

                  Lennox Lewis or Mike Tyson cound't KO Tony Tucker but yet Bruce Seldon could. You see my points, KO boxing maths don't always work.

                  Rahman might catch him with a different type of shot or finsih him off different.
                  My point was that he MIGHT but I don't see any reasonable thing to suggest that he conceivably WOULD.

                  When you start talking about things as unlikely as that, the discussion really becomes pointless.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Capaedia View Post
                    The TKO was by referee stoppage. I think he should have done it before Frazier was knocked down 6 times. Teddy Atlas screamed for the fight to be stopped during the first round, sometime after the second knockdown I believe. You can actually hear him in the fight audio

                    Teddy Atlas was only 19 when the first Foreman-Frazier fight happened in Jamaica. Are you sure that was who you heard?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                      Teddy Atlas was only 19 when the first Foreman-Frazier fight happened in Jamaica. Are you sure that was who you heard?
                      Haha I meant Angelo Dundee >.<

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