Originally posted by Crisp Jab
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Just interesting due to if Bonavena can drop & hurt Frazier, what would happen if Rahman can tag him flush? & Rahman hits harder than Bonavena.
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Originally posted by Crisp Jab View PostJust interesting due to if Bonavena can drop & hurt Frazier, what would happen if Rahman can tag him flush? & Rahman hits harder than Bonavena.
But Joe Frazier got up 6 times in two rounds against the man I think hit the hardest in all of boxing history. A more aggressive fighter with better accuracy and power that trapped Joe by the ropes several times was not able to finish Joe Frazier despite constantly beating on him for two rounds. The fight had to be ended by the ref.
So he's not getting a knockout. Oh no, it takes a far better man to knock out Smokin' Joe.
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Originally posted by Capaedia View PostHe might knock him down.
But Joe Frazier got up 6 times in two rounds against the man I think hit the hardest in all of boxing history. A more aggressive fighter with better accuracy and power that trapped Joe by the ropes several times was not able to finish Joe Frazier despite constantly beating on him for two rounds. The fight had to be ended by the ref.
So he's not getting a knockout. Oh no, it takes a far better man to knock out Smokin' Joe.
Am not saying Rahman beats Frazier, just looking at a fairly unlikely but not impossible outcome.
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Originally posted by Crisp Jab View PostYeah, but then again it dosent always work like that. Foreman is the way harder puncher, but Rock might just land a temple shot or then again he might just do what Foreman did and when Joe does get up finish him off.
Am not saying Rahman beats Frazier, just looking at a fairly unlikely but not impossible outcome.
I don't think he can finish him off, George tried his hardest and simply could not do it, even with another 5 knockdowns, I don't see why Rahman would have any more luck with it to a reasonably discussible extent.
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Originally posted by Capaedia View PostWell may as well say he COULD beat Muhammad Ali then, or COULD beat Foreman, at that stage.
I don't think he can finish him off, George tried his hardest and simply could not do it, even with another 5 knockdowns, I don't see why Rahman would have any more luck with it to a reasonably discussible extent.
Lennox Lewis or Mike Tyson cound't KO Tony Tucker but yet Bruce Seldon could. You see my points, KO boxing maths don't always work.
Rahman might catch him with a different type of shot or finsih him off different.
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Originally posted by Crisp Jab View PostAnd my point just because Foreman cound't KO Frazier, (he did TKO him do) dosen't mean no else has a chance. For example.....
Lennox Lewis or Mike Tyson cound't KO Tony Tucker but yet Bruce Seldon could. You see my points, KO boxing maths don't always work.
Rahman might catch him with a different type of shot or finsih him off different.
When you start talking about things as unlikely as that, the discussion really becomes pointless.
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Originally posted by Capaedia View PostThe TKO was by referee stoppage. I think he should have done it before Frazier was knocked down 6 times. Teddy Atlas screamed for the fight to be stopped during the first round, sometime after the second knockdown I believe. You can actually hear him in the fight audio
Teddy Atlas was only 19 when the first Foreman-Frazier fight happened in Jamaica. Are you sure that was who you heard?
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