More Skilled, Duran Or Floyd

[MeccaOfBoxing]

:bull****9: Horse**** :floyd9:

dont u think floyd is skilled man?

[StarshipTrooper]

dont u think floyd is skilled man?

Oh I think he's skilled.....I just object to flaming *****s proclaming him "the most skilled ever".....especially when he isn't even the most skilled in recent memory.

Poet

[MeccaOfBoxing]

Oh I think he's skilled.....I just object to flaming *****s proclaming him "the most skilled ever".....especially when he isn't even the most skilled in recent memory.

Poet

fair enough man, do u like his style as a whole?

[StarshipTrooper]

fair enough man, do u like his style as a whole?

I'd rather watch paint dry. I felt the same way about Hector "Track Star" Camacho.....who I personally think should sue Floyd for stealing his fighting style and wardrobe.

Poet

[MeccaOfBoxing]

I'd rather watch paint dry. I felt the same way about Hector "Track Star" Camacho.....who I personally think should sue Floyd for stealing his fighting style and wardrobe.

Poet

LMAO.....So don't you buy his PPV's or anything? He was exciting against Gatti, Manfredy, Corrales, Hatton.

[StarshipTrooper]

LMAO.....So don't you buy his PPV's or anything? He was exciting against Gatti, Manfredy, Corrales, Hatton.

Nope! I don't contribute a dime to his boatbuying fund :grin9: BTW, Gatti, Manfredy, and Corrales were all YEARS ago.....Hatton? Consider the opponent.

Poet

[MeccaOfBoxing]

Nope! I don't contribute a dime to his boatbuying fund :grin9: BTW, Gatti, Manfredy, and Corrales were all YEARS ago.....Hatton? Consider the opponent.

Poet

so it's only recently you disliked his style, did you enjoy watching him at super featherweight?

[StarshipTrooper]

so it's only recently you disliked his style, did you enjoy watching him at super featherweight?

He was certainly less shy about letting his hands go back then. It's his pot-shot then run like **** style since moving to Welter that I find particularly nauseating.

Poet

[Steak]

Clearly Mayweather. Duran was a very skilled fighter but he also had tremendous brawling instincts, he wasn't a purely skill-based fighter.

Im just curious, how are 'brawling instincts' not considered skill? I know it sounds sarcastic, but I dont mean it like that, I just want to discuss it. Brawling isnt nearly as easy as it sounds, and unless youve got a big advantage in punch power or chin, brawling actually relies a lot on skill.

honestly, this may upset some people, but I think using your physical advantages(speed and reflexes in particular) to potshot on the outside takes much less skill than fighting in the pocket, where you have to intelligently predict your opponents next punches and defend accordingly...theres not enough time to just generically pull back out of range of every punch.(I mean this in broad terms, not particularly in a Duran-Mayweather comparison)


side note: I like watching Mayweather fight, its alwys fun to see such a talented fighter in the ring, even if he does put a lot of priority on fighting defensively.

[Miburo]

Im just curious, how are 'brawling instincts' not considered skill? I know it sounds sarcastic, but I dont mean it like that, I just want to discuss it. Brawling isnt nearly as easy as it sounds, and unless youve got a big advantage in punch power or chin, brawling actually relies a lot on skill.

honestly, this may upset some people, but I think using your physical advantages(speed and reflexes in particular) to potshot on the outside takes much less skill than fighting in the pocket, where you have to intelligently predict your opponents next punches and defend accordingly...theres not enough time to just generically pull back out of range of every punch.(I mean this in broad terms, not particularly in a Duran-Mayweather comparison)


side note: I like watching Mayweather fight, its alwys fun to see such a talented fighter in the ring, even if he does put a lot of priority on fighting defensively.

I think what ultimately made him great at mixing it up was as much ingrained natural aggression, toughness, and speed as anything. The skills he learned in the gym just increased his effectiveness and turned him into a finished product. You don't think Duran had advantages in power and chin, especially at lightweight? He knocked down Iran Barkley at middleweight and easily weathered the bombs coming back at him. Duran was also much faster than anyone else I care to think of who fought in that style, especially in terms of hand speed. I'm not considering anything related to natural ability or athleticism, only learned skill sets. Mayweather uses the best of the old school technique - it takes athleticism to execute, but it isn't just pure athleticism like with RJJ, it's learned. Incidentally Mayweather can fight in the pocket any time he wants, he used to do it all the time at super featherweight.