Tyson vs Douglas - One of the ATG Fights

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  • sonnyboyx2
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    #31
    Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
    Yes, such great fighter, his KO losses to such memorable fighters as David Bey and Mike White are what sets him apart. That and his long reign as HW champion after beating Tyson. Ofcourse when talking about an incredible fighting machine such as him, don't forget to mention his 54% KO ratio for a guy who was 240 lbs, that's absolutely astounding, only the likes of Chris Byrd can surpass such Thor-like power.

    GTFO, Buster Douglas was a one-hit wonder against a fighter that wasn't that great to begin with. A prime Tyson got exposed by Douglas. Only saw McCall from those three you mentioned, same McCall that got lucky against Lewis and then quit on his stool crying. I am wondering when the IBHOF is going to induct the "incredible fighting machine" into its hallowed halls.
    pure boxrec and not one iota of boxing knowledge

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    • GJC
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      #32
      Originally posted by TBear
      Great that alot of us were watching boxing then.

      On the fight, Douglas did turn a masterful performance but I feel and felt before the fight that Tyson was in a downhill spiral. So not negating Douglas' championship performance, I feel he was in the right place at the right time. Not a big deal was made of the sparring session in which Greg Page floored Tyson before the fight as nearly all of us figured Tyson would still take out Buster in Tokoyo. But Tyson's problems were a on going thing. The drama from his failed marriage to Robin(and her mom), the Don King motivated firing of long time trainer Rooney. And even Tyson's own dealings with depression.

      Douglas took full advantage of the situation and rose to the occasion but on that night was fortunate he was not fighting the machine Tyson was in 1986-88.
      Agree to a point I think Tyson was ready to be taken from the time of the first Bruno fight or post Rooney if you like.
      It was one of the great performances of HW history from Douglas and a reminder of what a wasted talent he was.
      One thing I would say though is that no matter how good Douglas was and what sort of condition Tyson was in, Douglas fought without fear, which many had shown against Tyson, and fought the way that any version of Tyson would have struggled against.

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      • CarlosG815
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        #33
        ESPN classics just aired the Lewis - Rahman fight.

        What kind of fighter gets destroyed in such a small amount of time after taking such little punishment? To compare the onslaught that Tyson took, and still knocked Buster down at the end, to Lewis getting AXED in just 5 short rounds to a fighter like Rahman just screams hugger.

        Lewis - Briggs is on now and Lewis is lucky to have made it out of the first round.

        Lewis has terrible footwork and he's always off balance. Even when he knocked down Frank Bruno (I believe it was Bruno), he almost fell over himself.

        Lewis is just absolutely terrible in every aspect. He is a total phony and the fact that he has fans just proves that humans will always stand by their countrymen, proudly, no matter how terrible they are at their craft.

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          #34
          Originally posted by CarlosG815
          ESPN classics just aired the Lewis - Rahman fight.

          What kind of fighter gets destroyed in such a small amount of time after taking such little punishment? To compare the onslaught that Tyson took, and still knocked Buster down at the end, to Lewis getting AXED in just 5 short rounds to a fighter like Rahman just screams hugger.

          Lewis - Briggs is on now and Lewis is lucky to have made it out of the first round.

          Lewis has terrible footwork and he's always off balance. Even when he knocked down Frank Bruno (I believe it was Bruno), he almost fell over himself.

          Lewis is just absolutely terrible in every aspect. He is a total phony and the fact that he has fans just proves that humans will always stand by their countrymen, proudly, no matter how terrible they are at their craft.









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            #35
            You know, even great fighters have off nights so there's no need for Tyson fans to get so defensive about the Douglas fight. If the Tyson of the Pinklon Thomas or Bonecrusher Smith fights had shown up in Tokyo he'd have lost to Douglas too.

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            • Joeyzagz
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              #36
              Originally posted by CarlosG815
              ESPN classics just aired the Lewis - Rahman fight.

              What kind of fighter gets destroyed in such a small amount of time after taking such little punishment? To compare the onslaught that Tyson took, and still knocked Buster down at the end, to Lewis getting AXED in just 5 short rounds to a fighter like Rahman just screams hugger.

              Lewis - Briggs is on now and Lewis is lucky to have made it out of the first round.

              Lewis has terrible footwork and he's always off balance. Even when he knocked down Frank Bruno (I believe it was Bruno), he almost fell over himself.

              Lewis is just absolutely terrible in every aspect. He is a total phony and the fact that he has fans just proves that humans will always stand by their countrymen, proudly, no matter how terrible they are at their craft.
              ^^^You manage to turn another History topic to a Lennox thread.

              Cong****.

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              • sonnyboyx2
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                #37
                Originally posted by poet682006
                You know, even great fighters have off nights so there's no need for Tyson fans to get so defensive about the Douglas fight. If the Tyson of the Pinklon Thomas or Bonecrusher Smith fights had shown up in Tokyo he'd have lost to Douglas too.

                Poet
                yes i agree... Tyson started to lost focus from around the time he beat Tony Tucker, he was living a lifestyle akin to a movie star, boozing, drugs and as many women as he could manage... by the time he fought Pinklon Thomas he entered the ring on antibiotics due to him suffering from gonorrhea and he never gave up that or sacrificed that kind of lifestyle (still hasn`t).... But the thing you must say about Mike Tyson is that he is one of "The Toughest" guys of all times, even when he was out of shape and untrained no fighter could just walk in there and demoralize him (knock him out) there had to be a breaking down process go on first.. so in his 2 major defeats to Douglas & Holyfield he took a tremendous amount of punishment before succumbing which is a mark of his greatness.. even 13yrs after the Douglas loss 6yrs after the Holyfield loss and having served several lengthy prison sentences Tyson turned up for the payday against Lennox Lewis and took a pounding before going down... Like Carlos pointed out in the above post Lennox Lewis never had the toughness or the heart of Mike Tyson, its just not feasible to imagine a McCall or a Rahman poleaxe Mike Tyson with one punch like they did Lennox Lewis, infact its not feasible to imagine any fighter in the history of the sport "one punch and beat" Mike Tyson in the way that Lewis was defeated which makes Tyson an ATG fighter which the same cannot be said of Lennox Lewis because of the manner of those two `One-Punch` defeats.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                  on February 11, 1990 in Tokyo, Japan, Heavyweight champion Mike Tyson defended his title against James`Buster`Douglas in a fight which turned out to be one of the greatest fights in heavyweight history.. Douglas was in tremendous physical shape and put on a A+ performance worthy of any great champion, jabbing & moving while letting fly with thunderous right-hand bombs.. Mike Tyson strong, brave & incredibly tough, soaked up the punches and hung in there as the fight ebbed & flowed back and forth for 10 titantic rounds, this fight had tears, controversy & joy it had everything and was as good as any heavyweight fight in history...
                  1/. How many champions could have beat Douglas on this night
                  2/. How many champions could have taken the punches Tyson took on this night
                  1. I'm not sure about champions, but I think many ATG's could beat him on the same night.

                  2. Probably Holyfield, Foreman etc..

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