Ali's Punching Power?

[Spartacus Sully]

Eh decent highlights video but like i dont know these people and if they got back up or what.

though even with that after watching the video i cant with sane mind still claim ali to be more powerful then lewis.

id put lewis above foreman but i dont really rate foreman that high either. lewis was an above average puncher at best and really shouldnt be ranked with great heavies like dempsey marciano and louis who had the skill to throw great technique ruled punches just like lewis but also had the skill to throw wild hooks, which most importanly connected, didnt leave them selfs open, and put people out with a single hit.

[Calilloyd]

Eh decent highlights video but like i dont know these people and if they got back up or what.[/U]
though even with that after watching the video i cant with sane mind still claim ali to be more powerful then lewis.

id put lewis above foreman but i dont really rate foreman that high either. lewis was an above average puncher at best and really shouldnt be ranked with great heavies like dempsey marciano and louis who had the skill to throw great technique ruled punches just like lewis but also had the skill to throw wild hooks, which most importanly connected, didnt leave them selfs open, and put people out with a single hit.

Which is why you shouldn't comment on things you know nothing about. You obviously have watched very little of Lewis. If you don't know who fighters like Golota, Shannon Briggs, Frank Bruno, Tommy Morrison, or Razor Ruddock are, it shows how little you do know. And you keep questioning whether they "got up" They all get up eventually unless they're dead. You're going to sit here and say none of Dempsey's opponents "got up?" Claiming Foreman and Lewis had little punching power is ignorant. Sorry. You think you're clever making these absurd statements but it really makes you look like an idiot. And make up your mind on Lewis. First you said he had little power but after you were exposed on that one, you now say he was "above average?" You can't get your lies straight can you?

[Spartacus Sully]

Which is why you shouldn't comment on things you know nothing about. You obviously have watched very little of Lewis. If you don't know who fighters like Golota, Shannon Briggs, Frank Bruno, Tommy Morrison, or Razor Ruddock are, it shows how little you do know. And you keep questioning whether they "got up" They all get up eventually unless they're dead. You're going to sit here and say none of Dempsey's opponents "got up?" Claiming Foreman and Lewis had little punching power is ignorant. Sorry. You think you're clever making these absurd statements but it really makes you look like an idiot. And make up your mind on Lewis. First you said he had little power but after you were exposed on that one, you now say he was "above average?" You can't get your lies straight can you?

no but seriously it really is quite fun making absurd statements like george foreman just spun his opponets around and pushed them down that and not that lewis had much punching power. theres some truth to it if lewis trained to know when to throw a wider hook and close his fist the moment he hit he probly would have completely taken out alot more opponents instead of just staggered with a ref in between.

I dont think ive said anything about "got up" just tko's.

[Calilloyd]

no but seriously it really is quite fun making absurd statements like george foreman just spun his opponets around and pushed them down that and not that lewis had much punching power. theres some truth to it if lewis trained to know when to throw a wider hook and close his fist the moment he hit he probly would have completely taken out alot more opponents instead of just staggered with a ref in between.

I dont think ive said anything about "got up" just tko's.

There's no truth to it. And the video's clearly show that. And yes you did say something about whether the fighters "got up". It's a just a few post back. Forgot that already? And it's not the first time you used that line. And Lewis knocked a lot of fighters cold. Again you don't know what you're talking about. And don't pretend like your heroes Dempsey and Williard knocked all of their opponents cold.










Originally Posted by Ruby Robert;9011139 [U
Eh decent highlights video but like i dont know these people and if they got back up or what

[Spartacus Sully]

There's no truth to it. And the video's clearly show that. And yes you did say something about whether the fighters "got up". It's a just a few post back. Forgot that already? And it's not the first time you used that line. And Lewis knocked a lot of fighters cold. Again you don't know what you're talking about. And don't pretend like your heroes Dempsey and Williard knocked all of their opponents cold.










Originally Posted by Ruby Robert;9011139 [U
Eh decent highlights video but like i dont know these people and if they got back up or what

guess i did.

but really the point was that its a highlight video, i could be watching the same punch 8 times from diffrent angles its supposed to make the guy look good.

johnson was clearly poleaxed by willard as well as willard having killed john young with a single right upper cut.

and im sure plenty of dempseys 46 ko's were down for way more then the count.

compared to lennoxe's 11? ko's.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Very overrated, especially considering that most of the people he fought were under 200 and some as light as 177, so getting 60% KO ratio is not that impressive at all.

He was the first generation of super heavies who could fight. He was 6'3" and a solid 200 early in his career (then 220 as he matured), when most HWs of his time were still Marcianno-size HWs. He had the size advantage over most of his opponents.

If he was put into today's era (1990-today), he would be a Chris Byrd-type of HW: he could win a belt against the Lewis' and Klitschkos' of the world through speed and skill and a little luck (injury of his opponents) but he wouldn't dominate the way he did back in the day.

His biggest asset was his showmanship and gift of gab.

[Calilloyd]

Very overrated, especially considering that most of the people he fought were under 200 and some as light as 177, so getting 60% KO ratio is not that impressive at all.

He was the first generation of super heavies who could fight. He was 6'3" and a solid 200 early in his career (then 220 as he matured), when most HWs of his time were still Marcianno-size HWs. He had the size advantage over most of his opponents.

If he was put into today's era (1990-today), he would be a Chris Byrd-type of HW: he could win a belt against the Lewis' and Klitschkos' of the world through speed and skill and a little luck (injury of his opponents) but he wouldn't dominate the way he did back in the day.

His biggest asset was his showmanship and gift of jab.

Fixed it for you.

[Calilloyd]

guess i did.

but really the point was that its a highlight video, i could be watching the same punch 8 times from diffrent angles its supposed to make the guy look good.

johnson was clearly poleaxed by willard as well as willard having killed john young with a single right upper cut.

and im sure plenty of dempseys 46 ko's were down for way more then the count.

compared to lennoxe's 11? ko's.

How many of Dempseys 46 Ko's have you seen on film to confirm this? And what do you mean by Lewis "11 ko's?" Guessing again? You didn't even know who Lewis opponents were on that video which lets me know you've never seen him fight. Or just relying on boxrec and running with it. That's what people do when they actually haven't seen a fight. So they look up the fights on Boxrec and create their version of fights from that. I'm pretty sure that's what you're doing.

[The_Demon]

you are such a ****** clown, your posts are all laughable

No,your posts are laughable,all you do is troll the history section hating on someone because one of your favourite fighters ducked him

Lewis had big power and i believe ali was a good puncher also but ironmike doesnt-dont get so upset about it you pathetic hater

[Miburo]

Average - but any natural heavyweight has power compared to fighters in the lighter weight classes. Even a relatively light puncher like Ali could do damage.