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  • frankenfrank
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    #41
    Originally posted by BigStereotype
    1. I haven't seen the Angulo fight, but Martinez won the Cintron fight and he's not as overpoweringly aggressive as Margarito.
    2. Again, that's what can happen when you're distracted...I don't see your point. Also, Tito didn't have a granite chin like Margarito. I'd seen Tito on the verge of knockout before, while I'd never seen Margarito even notice a punch.
    3. I don't think so.
    4. Williams won, not survived, because he out-Margarito'd Margarito for the first seven rounds.
    5. He wasn't Juan Diaz or anything, he had a decent punch. He just wasn't a show-stopper. You can't be that big and strong for the division and not have just a little bit of punch.
    6. Yeah, definitely. I agree with that. His confidence was shattered, but that could be because he thought he was going to be fighting the last fight of his career.
    1. It is clear I was referring to stoppages , Margachito is the only man to
    ever stop Cintron .
    2&4. Danny Perez knocked Margachito down in the first round in both of their
    fights and Shane Mosley stopped him . According to you , Paul Williams out
    Margarittoed him , how could it be done given Margaritto's such
    tremendous chin , power , and stamina ? it's not like Williams outboxed him
    or anything , at least not according to you , each one of these ccurrences
    occurred during Margachito's prime , or close to it.
    3. One of you is right and the other is wrong , I hope you agree on this one ,
    And a video can be posted to prove it , maybe even a HD video.
    I simply don't want to watch twisted fights just to win an argument .
    5. So now you reduce him from one of the hardest hitters in his (talent
    packed) division to just having a decent punch ?
    Someone with a little bit of a punch don't stop Miguel Cotto , Kermit
    Cintron , Sergio Martinez and Golden Johnson (in just 1 round).



    And regardless of punching power :how many fighters can cause other fighters to bleed that much.

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    • WladIsTheChamp
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      #42
      Out of HWs: Ali, Byrd, and Holyfield come to mind, from the ones I have seen. Byrd would fight anyone despite being the much smaller guy in most of his fights. Ali would just take an insane amount of punishment and not quit. Holyfield was also the smaller guy and still fighting at his age.

      Wlad deserves an honorable mention in the heart department - he has never quit and have always tried to fight on, plus to have come back from those devasting losses like that and still rule the HW division, takes heart.

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      • BigStereotype
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        #43
        Originally posted by frankenfrank
        1. It is clear I was referring to stoppages , Margachito is the only man to
        ever stop Cintron .
        2&4. Danny Perez knocked Margachito down in the first round in both of their
        fights and Shane Mosley stopped him . According to you , Paul Williams out
        Margarittoed him , how could it be done given Margaritto's such
        tremendous chin , power , and stamina ? it's not like Williams outboxed him
        or anything , at least not according to you , each one of these ccurrences
        occurred during Margachito's prime , or close to it.
        3. One of you is right and the other is wrong , I hope you agree on this one ,
        And a video can be posted to prove it , maybe even a HD video.
        I simply don't want to watch twisted fights just to win an argument .
        5. So now you reduce him from one of the hardest hitters in his (talent
        packed) division to just having a decent punch ?
        Someone with a little bit of a punch don't stop Miguel Cotto , Kermit
        Cintron , Sergio Martinez and Golden Johnson (in just 1 round).



        And regardless of punching power :how many fighters can cause other fighters to bleed that much.
        1. So was I, Martinez could have stopped Cintron if he was a more aggressive fighter
        2. I haven't seen Margarito vs. Perez and I meant I had never seen him hurt before Margarito-Mosley. But in the five or six fights I've watched, I've never seen him even reel backwards off a punch.
        3. My point is that I don't think the fight is twisted. So if you want to go on youtube and find the closing ceremonies, knock yourself out.
        4. Dude, my point was always that he wasn't ever a tremendous puncher. But a good body shot from even a volume puncher like Margarito can put you down hard. And he was ferocious to the body in the Cintron fights.

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