Tyson's psi is not over 2200, that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
kid achilles, who do you think hit harder, frazier or liston? not who was a better fighter, just who hit harder or had more power in their hands? be honest.
Head to head Liston beating Foreman Fraizer Tyson Marciano Louis Dempsey
that just laughable
yea a swarmer vs a slugger like foreman is sucide but liston is not nearly as strong as Foreman, and Frazier hits alot harder then Liston as does Dempsey, Foreman, Tyson and Marciano, Possibley even Louis
Liston was a good slugger, very strong, great jab, but your blowing him WAY out of proportion to make it look like young clay beat a great hw or something. Point is Liston wasn't even prime fighting clay, and Liston wasn't that great to begin with, he was good but not top10,
Louis didn't get stripped of his title because he went to war and he didn't have to wait for a draft officer to call his name because he signed up because he loved the country that was filling his pocket with money.
Its hard to judge punching power. Based on what i have seen, read and percieve as the general concensus among historians i would give the edge to Liston.
Why did you have to bring politics and attack someone for what they did out of the ring in a thread of this nature?
First off no-one filled his pockets, Joe got in the ring, Joe put his life at risk, Joe kicked ass, and Joe EARNED his money... no-one GAVE him anything. Joe loved that country, the country that denied him access to resturants, made him stand up on a Bus, sit at the back row in the so called house of the lord. Joe Louis supported a fight against an imminent threat, a fight that was genuinely required to protect the American people... not one driven by obscure political motivations, not one that resulted in the loss of civillian and military life yet achieved nothing.
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