Rate these guys in terms of boxing ability part 2

[Tyson.]

Prime RJJ is the GOAT P4P. The win over Toney shows it all.

1. RJJ
2. Ali
3. Pernell
4 Nunn

[Toney616]

Watch as many pre-exhile Ali fights as possible: You'll be surprised especially when you compare them to the 70s Ali fights that you've seen.

Poet

Pre exile I have seen:
Williams
Liston I
Liston II (never watching this again, lol)
Moore
Cooper
London

post exile: I have seen most of his fights, Ali-Frazier I being my fav

off topic:
I also have noticed that Eubank's head movement during Watson I was very reminiscent of Ali's during the the first Liston fight

[Toney616]

Prime RJJ is the GOAT P4P. The win over Toney shows it all.

Toney was tailor made for him

[StarshipTrooper]

Pre exile I have seen:
Williams
Liston I
Liston II (never watching this again, lol)
Moore
Cooper
London

post exile: I have seen most of his fights, Ali-Frazier I being my fav

off topic:
I also have noticed that Eubank's head movement during Watson I was very reminiscent of Ali's during the the first Liston fight

Eubank was a crafty fighter. The Brit Middleweights from the late-80s early-90s were a terrific batch.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

Pre exile I have seen:
Williams
Liston I
Liston II (never watching this again, lol)
Moore
Cooper
London

post exile: I have seen most of his fights, Ali-Frazier I being my fav

off topic:
I also have noticed that Eubank's head movement during Watson I was very reminiscent of Ali's during the the first Liston fight

The Zora Folley fight is another good one to watch although Ali took it easy on Zora because he liked him.

Poet

[DondiNeverLeft]

The fighters:
Michael Nunn
Roy Jones
Muhammad Ali
Pernell Whittaker

The judging criteria:
Offense
Defense
Footwork

Please give reasons for your order

Off topic: Can anyone here give me a breakdown of Pernell defensive technique?

Nunn- Typical above average boxer.
Jones- Gifted
Ali- Great boxer with Great outside the ring life-What makes hin "the greatest".
Whitaker- Defensive Genius.

[Toney616]

Eubank was a crafty fighter. The Brit Middleweights from the late-80s early-90s were a terrific batch.

Poet

Benn and Eubank were my favs from that bunch

[Toney616]

The Zora Folley fight is another good one to watch although Ali took it easy on Zora because he liked him.

Poet

Cool, I'll check that one out as well

[Toney616]

Nunn- Typical above average boxer.

Nunn was gifted as well

Jones- Gifted

true

Ali- Great boxer with Great outside the ring life-What makes hin "the greatest".

We are going to have to disagree on this

Whitaker- Defensive Genius.

I agree

[SplitSecond]

Interesting, you have Ali over Jones?
comparison: Ali vs Jones
Defense:Equal
Offense:Jones
Footwork:Jones

tho they both had very similar type of defence jones was more versatile and his upperbody and head movement is what gave him the awkward angled counter attacks

but since ali is a heavyweight, i guess you gotta give him some cred


i dont think it's arguable tho that jones has the better offense
since jones fought at heavyweight, with a 5'10 frame and 200 pounds
he has the left hook from outside, the uppercut, hook to head & body combo inside or hook and uppercut if he's on the outside, an uppercut to the body, a jab to the body, a right hand to the body and then you've got all those counters that can come from nowhere, so ike i said, imo it should'nt be arguable