Ali's Power Is Underrated

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  • Sweat
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    #11
    Whoever say Ali's power is weak is a dumbass or dont know boxing at all. If you say that he has an average power, its like saying that George Foreman has an average chin which is not true because he has a decent chin and Ali is the only one that knocked him out.

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    • Pinoy_Texan
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      #12
      Ali before they stripped him of his belts was actually knocking people down while he was backing up.

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      • Hunna
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        #13
        exactly! any heavy weight with such speed, will have incredible power.
        sheer size plus that speed equals power.

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        • Kid Achilles
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          #14
          Whoever says Ali had a massvie punch is the dumbass. Watch his fights for God's sake, especially the three with Frazier where he rarely had Joe hurt in 41 rounds of boxing. Ron Stander and Oscar Bonavena both hurt Joe much more than Ali ever did and they were clumsier and slower of hand and foot and had less skill to deliver their power.

          No one is saying Ali was a weak puncher, just that he was only a bit above average in that department and so he can't compare to most of the other guys. There just weren't many heavyweight champions who were weak punchers.

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          • JT1
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            #15
            I am a massive fan of ali's and think he is the greatest ever but he wasn't a big hitter. Solid right hand but not big. It is undeniable that Holmes hit slightly harder and he wasn't a great puncher either. Where Ali scored his ko's a lot was thru sheer class and accumulation. He could also throw decent punches that his opponent simply never saw. Many say the punch that can be the most dangerous ko wise is the one you don't see. Another great strength was that when he did hurt an opponent nobody could put so many accurate punches on someone so fast. He was a good finisher.

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            • Easy-E
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              #16
              Ali was a great puncer, with heavy hands, but he wasnt a heavy hitter. I would agree that his power was underrated, but that wasnt his stregnth,,,obviously

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              • Skydog
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                #17
                Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                Whoever says Ali had a massvie punch is the dumbass. Watch his fights for God's sake, especially the three with Frazier where he rarely had Joe hurt in 41 rounds of boxing. Ron Stander and Oscar Bonavena both hurt Joe much more than Ali ever did and they were clumsier and slower of hand and foot and had less skill to deliver their power.

                No one is saying Ali was a weak puncher, just that he was only a bit above average in that department and so he can't compare to most of the other guys. There just weren't many heavyweight champions who were weak punchers.
                Joe wasn't hurt? Look at Joe's face in III: it's swelled like a balloon. Why do you think they called the fight?

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                • tommyhearns804
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                  #18
                  Ali had slightly better than average power.In general it was nothing to worry about.Ali usually had to land punches for rounds and rounds before what he was doing had any effect.Ali in no way had massive punching power and i don't know how you figure people hate Ali.If anything Ali is built up more than any other fighter in history besides Marciano and Tyson.If you don't know boxing you would think Ali never lost.Frazier Foreman Norton Lyle ect ect ect are all put down to give false praise to Ali.
                  When you mention Frazier beat Ali first you will probably get this dumb line.Well Ali was old.Ali is old at 30 but yet Foreman could win the title at 45 and fight until he was 48.Ali wasn't old.He was rusty when he came back and that is it.He started taking more punches because he was fighting the better fighters.Ali looked more impressive before his exile because he was usually fighting buys who were much smaller than him.Most around the 190 pound weight range or he was fighting guys who were really really slow like Chuvalo or even Lison.Liston was a decent fighter built up to make Ali look good.Liston's best wins came over the blown up super middleweight Patterson who had a glass chin.
                  Ali=great hand speed.great courage and heart.a quick mouth but he was never much of a puncher.

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                  • tommyhearns804
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                    #19
                    And by the way again.Wepner fought Foreman in Foreman's 3rd fight and was stopped in the 3rd.Years after Wepner fought Ali and lasted 14 or 15 rounds so if Wepner was a bum then Ali was a bum for letting him last so long.

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                    • TheEvilSaint
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                      #20
                      ali KOd the iron chinned oscar bonavena, sonny liston, and george foreman (the only person to stop bonavena is ali, likewise for foreman).

                      ali doesnt hurt u with one punch, he hurts u with the punches that are too fast to see or stop. sure hes not rocky marciano, jack dempsey, joe louis, or mike tyson, but his punches hurt like hell.

                      just ask joe frazier.

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