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  • Biffen
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    #111
    Do you consider Lennox win over Vitali more impressive then Ali win over Foreman?

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    • SirTomJones
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      #112
      The sheer size of modern heavyweight make it hard to predict fights between modern era and and past boxers at the same weight.

      A big problem is people look back in the past with rose tinted glasses and look at boxers in the past in more favourable light.

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      • Joeyzagz
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        #113
        Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
        i can assure you that none of those are `Joke-Names` it is my opinion that they would all beat Lennox Lewis fairly easily, i have first hand knowledge of Lewis having seen him fight live`on several occasions and i just cannot see him beat any of the fighters i listed...
        I actually saw him beat 4 of the fighters on your list, so did millions of other people around the world. If it is your opinion that the remaining members would beat him, thats fine, we will never know.

        I have Lennox ranked #3 all-time, #1 head to head.

        Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
        i could not see Lewis beat any of the fighters i listed and that list includes Michael Spinks who was good enough to out-jab and beat a good Larry Holmes (Twice)
        If you are going to give a 29 y/o Spinks credit for beating a 37 year old Larry Holmes, then I dont see whats wrong with acknowledging Lennox's triumph over a still good Holyfield who is only 3 years older than Lennox.

        Lewis landed 348 to Holyfields 130

        Originally posted by Biffen
        Do you consider Lennox win over Vitali more impressive then Ali win over Foreman?
        No way, but it is in the same neighborhood. If Ali's victory over Foreman at age 32, puts him #1 all time, then I believe Lennox's cunning victory at age 37 should at least get him top 10.

        Look at what Vitali did afterwards, and how no one has been able to put him on ***** street since old Lennox did it in 2003.


        Ali/Foreman
        Foreman/Moorer
        Lennox/Klitschko



        All of the above were losing on the scorecards against the younger opponent before willing their way to victory.

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        • sonnyboyx2
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          #114
          Originally posted by JoeyZagz
          I actually saw him beat 4 of the fighters on your list, so did millions of other people around the world. If it is your opinion that the remaining members would beat him, thats fine, we will never know.

          I have Lennox ranked #3 all-time, #1 head to head.


          If you are going to give a 29 y/o Spinks credit for beating a 37 year old Larry Holmes, then I dont see whats wrong with acknowledging Lennox's triumph over a still good Holyfield who is only 3 years older than Lennox.

          Lewis landed 348 to Holyfields 130



          No way, but it is in the same neighborhood. If Ali's victory over Foreman at age 32, puts him #1 all time, then I believe Lennox's cunning victory at age 37 should at least get him top 10.

          Look at what Vitali did afterwards, and how no one has been able to put him on ***** street since old Lennox did it in 2003.


          Ali/Foreman
          Foreman/Moorer
          Lennox/Klitschko



          All of the above were losing on the scorecards against the younger opponent before willing their way to victory.
          Lewis wins over the 4 on my list are all tainted wins..Bowe was "Robbed" in the Olympics
          Tyson was 12yrs past his best and his defeats to Williams & McBride show the state he was in.
          Vitali was "Robbed" with Lewis promising the entire boxing world he would face Vitali in a rematch but ran like a dog.
          Holyfield who was years past his best fought a draw with Lewis then was "Robbed" in their return fight.

          Michael Spinks twice beat Larry Holmes.. the same Holmes who 10yrs later lost a close decision to Oliver McCall and who humiliated Ray Mercer, the same McCall who was coming off a 2rd poleaxing of Lennox Lewis and the same Mercer who lost a very controversial decision to Lennox Lewis.... Spinks would certainly put Lewis to sleep if Journeymen like McCall & Rahman could do it in easy fashion and in 2rds & 5rds

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          • Joeyzagz
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            #115
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            Lewis wins over the 4 on my list are all tainted wins..Bowe was "Robbed" in the Olympics
            Tyson was 12yrs past his best and his defeats to Williams & McBride show the state he was in.
            Vitali was "Robbed" with Lewis promising the entire boxing world he would face Vitali in a rematch but ran like a dog.
            Holyfield who was years past his best fought a draw with Lewis then was "Robbed" in their return fight.
            Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield and Vitali could NOT beat Lennox, they all FAILED to get the WIN Every slight/obstacle you can come up with Lennox has experienced as well, and overcame them.

            Lennox has been legitimately robbed before
            Lennox has been the fat/out-of-shape opponent before
            Lennox fought as the old guy, outyouthed by 6 years against Tua/Briggs/Vitali/Rahman
            Lennox has fought distracted before.
            Lennox has come back from devastating losses before


            If there is an issue, suck it up and persevere...WIN. Apparently Lennox is the only HW of his era capable of doing this.

            Spinks would certainly put Lewis to sleep if Journeymen like McCall & Rahman could do it
            Michael Spinks retired from boxing the second he lost a match. Great p4p fighter but a joke at Heavyweight. Id rank Tony Tucker ahead of him.

            Crybaby Mccall quit after the 3rd, and Rahman was Ko'd the quickest of his career against Lennox.

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            • sonnyboyx2
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              #116
              Originally posted by JoeyZagz
              Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield and Vitali could NOT beat Lennox, they all FAILED to get the WIN Every slight/obstacle you can come up with Lennox has experienced as well, and overcame them.

              Lennox has been legitimately robbed before
              Lennox has been the fat/out-of-shape opponent before
              Lennox fought as the old guy, outyouthed by 6 years against Tua/Briggs/Vitali/Rahman
              Lennox has fought distracted before.
              Lennox has come back from devastating losses before


              If there is an issue, suck it up and persevere...WIN. Apparently Lennox is the only HW of his era capable of doing this.



              Michael Spinks retired from boxing the second he lost a match. Great p4p fighter but a joke at Heavyweight. Id rank Tony Tucker ahead of him.

              Crybaby Mccall quit after the 3rd, and Rahman was Ko'd the quickest of his career against Lennox.
              Rahaman was KOd by James Toney in 3rds..

              McCall was not crying the night he poleaxed Lewis in less than 2rds it was Lewis who was crying leaving the ring being helped down the ring steps by his brother with tears rolling down his face while McCall was pacing around the ring shouting"i told you all i would knock him out easily" that was a different McCall to the version who was just days out of a Drug-Rehab who had a nervous breakdown in the ring while Lewis stood back and watched as he was too afraid to engage McCall in a fight.

              For you to repeatedly claim that the version of Mike Tyson who lost to Lewis was anything other than a shell of the fighter he was 13yrs earlier is ridiculous.

              JoeyZagz.. you seem to know all about the career of Lennox Lewis.. can you name for me the fighters who Lewis fought "Who was At the Top of their Game"..?

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                #117
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                Rahaman was KOd by James Toney in 3rds..

                McCall was not crying the night he poleaxed Lewis in less than 2rds it was Lewis who was crying leaving the ring being helped down the ring steps by his brother with tears rolling down his face while McCall was pacing around the ring shouting"i told you all i would knock him out easily" that was a different McCall to the version who was just days out of a Drug-Rehab who had a nervous breakdown in the ring while Lewis stood back and watched as he was too afraid to engage McCall in a fight.

                For you to repeatedly claim that the version of Mike Tyson who lost to Lewis was anything other than a shell of the fighter he was 13yrs earlier is ridiculous.

                JoeyZagz.. you seem to know all about the career of Lennox Lewis.. can you name for me the fighters who Lewis fought "Who was At the Top of their Game"..?
                No he wasnt. The fight was stopped on a cut due to a head clash and is down as a NC.

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                • sonnyboyx2
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by JerseySugar
                  No he wasnt. The fight was stopped on a cut due to a head clash and is down as a NC.
                  no matter what the result is down as.. Rahman quit because he knew he was getting KOd.. Rahman has never beaten any top flight fighter other than when he poleaxed Lewis.

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                  • sonnyboyx2
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                    #119
                    JoeyZagz.. you seem to know all about the career of Lennox Lewis.. can you name for me the fighters who Lewis fought "Who was At the Top of their Game"..?

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                    • Jim Jeffries
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by JerseySugar
                      No he wasnt. The fight was stopped on a cut due to a head clash and is down as a NC.
                      Yeah Sonny is really reaching with his Lennox hate here. Rahman was pretty much shot by the time he fought Toney and it most certainly wasn't as impressive as Lennox's one punch destruction of a prime Rahman.

                      Love him or hate him, Lewis is a top 10 ATG HW. Period. End of story. Thanks for playing.

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