Fighters who are tailor made for other fighters

[Toney616]

At 3:00 is a beauty:



Counter punching an 84' jab is quite impressive. Now what do you think would happen if that hit Nortons chin?

Good point, also I noticed a while back that Williams was built like a tank back then, his build is very similar to Vitali's.

What happened to him after the Ali fight?

[Vadrigar.]

Good point, also I noticed a while back that Williams was built like a tank back then, his build is very similar to Vitali's.

What happened to him after the Ali fight?

According to this article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...s-1119362.html

"Williams retired, couldn't keep up the payments on his house and forfeited it, saw his marriage fail and took a job on a building site. The need for money also forced him to return to boxing until 1972, when he was 39 years old. The last of his 92 fights was one of his 78 wins, over a journeyman named Roberto Davila in Denver.

In his sixties his kidneys failed and he needed regular dialysis. However, the end was premature, the last tragic moment when he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. As he was crossing the road after a visit to hospital, he was knocked over by a car and died from his injuries."

Found this quite funny(boxrec):

"Reportedly fought in the Ba***** in the early 1970s, but it turned out to be another fighter named Cleveland Williams."

[JK1700]

Jorge Arce - Cristian Mijares
Felix Trinidad - Winky Wright
Oscar De La Hoya - Shane Mosley
Diego Corrales - Joel Casamayor

[Dynamite76]

gerrie coetzee:
Greg Page.

[$Bullsfam$]

Barkley, Pavlik, Glen Johnson:
Toney, Hopkins
Frazier, Tyson:
Foreman, Liston
Toney:
Jones
Ali:
Norton, Witherspoon

Can anyone here list any more?

Damn thats a pretty damn good list. Definitely who I had in mind. And is it just me or do guys like Calzaghe & Paul Willams give guys like Clottey, Winky, and Hopkins fits. The busier work rate guys with lots of high volume offense less defense just tend to overwhelm guys with high defense but low work rate guys who probably if they just less there hands good a little more probably could beat these other guys more convincingly. or made for a tougher fight.

Its a hard to tell case though since most of these fights could be very close though like Hopkins/Calzaghe.

[Toney616]

Damn thats a pretty damn good list. Definitely who I had in mind. And is it just me or do guys like Calzaghe & Paul Willams give guys like Clottey, Winky, and Hopkins fits. The busier work rate guys with lots of high volume offense less defense just tend to overwhelm guys with high defense but low work rate guys who probably if they just less there hands good a little more probably could beat these other guys more convincingly. or made for a tougher fight.

Its a hard to tell case though since most of these fights could be very close though like Hopkins/Calzaghe.

Good point
I haven't seen the Williams/Winky fight, but I'm told it played out like you said, with Winky being overwhelmed and not having time to be able to counter.
Winky,Clottey:
Paul Williams

[Toney616]

Felix Trinidad - Winky Wright
Oscar De La Hoya - Shane Mosley

good point on Tito being tailor made for Winky, he doesnt have either the workrate or power to cause Winky problems

Not sure I can agree on dlh and Mosley, care to elaborate a bit?

[prinzemanspopa]

Joe frazier's glass jaw and foreman's above the typical cherry picked frazier opponent was always going to be a match made in hell for frazier.Or a match made in heaven,depending on your own view of good ole' Smokey Joe.




It's very important to note that Winky Wright has never been a "low workrate" type of fighter.Even in his fight with Paul Williams, he was active and consistent throughout.


Keep in mind that this was a very rusty,thirty seven year old version of Winky Wright.

[DR.ORGYY]

That avi is tailor made for this ****....

[SweetPbfAli]

At 3:00 is a beauty:



Counter punching an 84' jab is quite impressive. Now what do you think would happen if that hit Nortons chin?

He kept his left low but did not roll those right hands from Liston well at all. It was like a poor mans shoulder roll.