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  • #11
    Round 1: 10 – 9 Whitaker
    Whitaker was very elusive this round and Chavez just couldn't get to him. He controlled the tempo with his jab, and set up combinations to the body and the head. Chavez was aggressive, but not effective.

    *Round 2: 10 – 9 Whitaker
    Chavez was actually pretty effective with his aggressiveness this round, especially on the inside, but Whitaker controlled him with the jab from the outside. It landed too often to ignore, not to mention the straight left hands that followed the jab up. Close round.

    Round 3: 10 – 9 Whitaker
    Pernell dominated this round from start to finish. Good jab, combinations, defense, footwork, everything. Chavez was dumbfounded

    Round 4: 10 – 9 Whitaker
    Pernell dominated this round once more, taking a lot of low blows in the process for his troubles. Chavez seemed to be searching for a new game plan this round, as he began to go backwards and tried to counter punch. He however failed miserably.

    *Round 5: 10 – 9 Whitaker
    Whitaker's combinations went down this round, but the jab was ever present. Chavez ate it time and time again. Chavez was his most effective in the last 30 seconds of the round, a part he clearly won. The rest of the round on the other hand, not so much. What Chavez did at the very end might swing it in his favors in some judges eyes, but not mine.

    *Round 6: 10 – 9 Whitaker
    One of the closer rounds, ring generalship wise this round was even. Clean punching wise, clearly goes to Whitaker. Chavez simply gets hit too much and is unable to hurt Whitaker to make up for it.

    Round 7: 10 – 9 Whitaker
    After a moment early in the round where Chavez essentially lifts Whitaker off the ground while putting together combinations of his own, Whitaker complains to the referee, but the ref lets the action continue. Infuriated, Whitaker comes right back with some excellent combination punching. The body work is especially impressive and even slows down and backs Chavez up. Toward the end of the round Whitaker is seen lighting Chavez up to the head. Chavez actually feels Whitaker's power and does not press the action. This is the first round I'd say Chavez definitively lost in ring generalship. Dominant round for Whitaker.

    Round 8: 10 – 9 Whitaker
    Chavez had a much better round this round because Whitaker lingered on the inside which allowed Chavez to put work in. However, Whitaker actually WON the exchanges on the inside. He honestly beat Chavez up this round. Competitive but clear round for Whitaker.

    *Round 9: 10 – 9 Whitaker
    Very close round with back and forth action. Big shots were thrown by both fighters, but Whitaker landed by far the majority of the eye catching blows.

    Round 10: 10 – 9 Whitaker
    Chavez just kind of bored his way in with reckless abandon this round. But he was lethargic and mostly ineffective. Whitaker countered well, and still landed the more significant blows.

    Round 11: 10 – 9 Whitaker
    More of the same from the last round. Chavez looks desperate at this point.

    *Round 12: 10 – 9 Whitaker
    Close round. Whitaker gave the first half of the round away by holding too much and not letting his hands go. I think Lou Duva was having memories of the Meldrick Taylor fight and didn't want Pernell to take any unnecessary risks (as he was clearly winning he fight by a large margin at this point on any non corrupt score card). So in the first half of the round Chavez wins it by outworking Whitaker. In the second half however, Whitaker clearly won on clean punching. What he did in the second half was more impressive, hence I believe he deserved to win the round.


    Final Score: 12 – 0 Whitaker (120 – 108)


    Score Variances:
    Scoring all the starred rounds to fighter 1: Official Score
    Scoring all the starred rounds even: 7 – 0 – 5 Whitaker
    Scoring all the starred rounds to fighter 2: 7 – 5 Whitaker

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post
      It was one of them. There are too many others in boxing history to say it was the absolute worst. Whitaker-Ramirez one was just as bad if not worst.
      This. Was the worst IMO. Rameriz could barely even touch him THE WHOLE FIGHT. Like their's highlight video's on youtube just showing this off like that video "the art of defensive boxing"



      The Chavez fight was a very bad decision though definitely. I think he beat Oscar too even though that fight was SOOOO close. But Pernell definitely beat the legend but Chavez's legacy I guess was more important to the judges then the fight itself.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Obama View Post
        Round 1: 10 – 9 Whitaker
        Whitaker was very elusive this round and Chavez just couldn't get to him. He controlled the tempo with his jab, and set up combinations to the body and the head. Chavez was aggressive, but not effective.

        *Round 2: 10 – 9 Whitaker
        Chavez was actually pretty effective with his aggressiveness this round, especially on the inside, but Whitaker controlled him with the jab from the outside. It landed too often to ignore, not to mention the straight left hands that followed the jab up. Close round.

        Round 3: 10 – 9 Whitaker
        Pernell dominated this round from start to finish. Good jab, combinations, defense, footwork, everything. Chavez was dumbfounded

        Round 4: 10 – 9 Whitaker
        Pernell dominated this round once more, taking a lot of low blows in the process for his troubles. Chavez seemed to be searching for a new game plan this round, as he began to go backwards and tried to counter punch. He however failed miserably.

        *Round 5: 10 – 9 Whitaker
        Whitaker's combinations went down this round, but the jab was ever present. Chavez ate it time and time again. Chavez was his most effective in the last 30 seconds of the round, a part he clearly won. The rest of the round on the other hand, not so much. What Chavez did at the very end might swing it in his favors in some judges eyes, but not mine.

        *Round 6: 10 – 9 Whitaker
        One of the closer rounds, ring generalship wise this round was even. Clean punching wise, clearly goes to Whitaker. Chavez simply gets hit too much and is unable to hurt Whitaker to make up for it.

        Round 7: 10 – 9 Whitaker
        After a moment early in the round where Chavez essentially lifts Whitaker off the ground while putting together combinations of his own, Whitaker complains to the referee, but the ref lets the action continue. Infuriated, Whitaker comes right back with some excellent combination punching. The body work is especially impressive and even slows down and backs Chavez up. Toward the end of the round Whitaker is seen lighting Chavez up to the head. Chavez actually feels Whitaker's power and does not press the action. This is the first round I'd say Chavez definitively lost in ring generalship. Dominant round for Whitaker.

        Round 8: 10 – 9 Whitaker
        Chavez had a much better round this round because Whitaker lingered on the inside which allowed Chavez to put work in. However, Whitaker actually WON the exchanges on the inside. He honestly beat Chavez up this round. Competitive but clear round for Whitaker.

        *Round 9: 10 – 9 Whitaker
        Very close round with back and forth action. Big shots were thrown by both fighters, but Whitaker landed by far the majority of the eye catching blows.

        Round 10: 10 – 9 Whitaker
        Chavez just kind of bored his way in with reckless abandon this round. But he was lethargic and mostly ineffective. Whitaker countered well, and still landed the more significant blows.

        Round 11: 10 – 9 Whitaker
        More of the same from the last round. Chavez looks desperate at this point.

        *Round 12: 10 – 9 Whitaker
        Close round. Whitaker gave the first half of the round away by holding too much and not letting his hands go. I think Lou Duva was having memories of the Meldrick Taylor fight and didn't want Pernell to take any unnecessary risks (as he was clearly winning he fight by a large margin at this point on any non corrupt score card). So in the first half of the round Chavez wins it by outworking Whitaker. In the second half however, Whitaker clearly won on clean punching. What he did in the second half was more impressive, hence I believe he deserved to win the round.


        Final Score: 12 – 0 Whitaker (120 – 108)


        Score Variances:
        Scoring all the starred rounds to fighter 1: Official Score
        Scoring all the starred rounds even: 7 – 0 – 5 Whitaker
        Scoring all the starred rounds to fighter 2: 7 – 5 Whitaker
        Okay. I'm going to print this out and after the Flyers - Blackhawks are done (or tomorrow morning) I'm going to pop in Whitaker - Chavez and look at it round by round with your commentary and see how it tallies with what I'm seeing.

        Poet

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        • #14
          While I drag this topic away from Dunce and his copying and pasting of scorecards from others users on a different forum,then no,it wasn't the worst decision of all time.

          It's certainly popular to claim such a thing.Just like it's popular to claim that Lewis-Holyfield was one of the worst decisions of all time.


          If you ever wish to take the time out and watch Aaron Pryor's fight with Gary Hinton,then you would have just seen one of the worst decisions rendered in a title fight over the last thirty years.
          Last edited by prinzemanspopa; 05-30-2010, 10:44 AM.

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          • #15
            No, not even close. I had it 8-4 Whitaker. A bad decision of course, but it can't compare to this.

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            • #16
              Chavez did enough to win the first round, he was the aggressor, he looks stronger than Whitaker early, Round 2 was close but I thought JC won it anyway and the other round Chavez took was the 5th. No way this fight goes a shutout, 12-0. I had it 8-4 for Whitaker or to be Chavez-friendly, 7-4-1 for Sweet Pea.

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              • #17
                worst high profile robberies ive seen were foreman/briggs and holyfield/lewis.this is definitely close

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by prinzemanspopa View Post
                  While I drag this topic away from Dunce and his copying and pasting of scorecards from others users on a different forum,then no,it wasn't the worst decision of all time.
                  .
                  What a shameless comment. You refuse to even give me credit for a simple scorecard. Sad. Something is seriously wrong with you.

                  You've yet to ever prove anything I've passed off as mine wasn't authentic. Yet you continue to accuse...

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Obama View Post
                    What a shameless comment. You refuse to even give me credit for a simple scorecard. Sad. Something is seriously wrong with you.

                    You've yet to ever prove anything I've passed off as mine wasn't authentic. Yet you continue to accuse...



                    Hit a nerve have I? Sorry,dunce,we aren't over at your dead forum where everybody(all seven users) kisses your arse and tells you how knowledgeable in fear of being banned.


                    You've already confirmed my accusations.Only an insecure little girl would have responded with such whiny post.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by prinzemanspopa View Post
                      Hit a nerve have I? Sorry,dunce,we aren't over at your dead forum where everybody(all seven users) kisses your arse and tells you how knowledgeable in fear of being banned.


                      You've already confirmed my accusations.Only an insecure little girl would have responded with such whiny post.
                      Seriously, it's a score card. Who fakes a ****ing scorecard.

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