Did Joe Frazier Duck The Big Punchers of His Era?

[HaglerSteelChin]

The video that I supplied shows frazier getting knocked down six times in two rounds.Most of the knockdowns came from grazing shots.


Michael Moorer was known for having a glass jaw.Nobody is delusional enough to argue that he had an "incredible" chin.


fighters with incredible chin's don't get knocked down six times in two rounds.fighters with great chins don't even get knocked down six times in their entire careers.

If getting Knockdown 6 times in two rounds is bad what does that make someone who gets banned from a site 6 times and keeps coming back and trolling about?

[fitnessten]

Frazier ducked no one

The accusation that Frazier ducked big punchers and then using the list provided is ridicolous! I followed boxing closely during this time period, maybe the 'golden era' of boxing because in Ali, Frazier and Foreman we had debatably 3 of the top 10 heavyweights (maybe the top 5) of all time. For Frazier to have ducked any of the above you would have to sure they had number one contender status during the time he was champion and NOBE of them were close! As pointed out Liston and Williams were not serious contenders when Frazier was peaking. Ken Norton and Leotis Martin were sparring partners of Frazier and neither was a big puncher. Frazier would have knocked out both because neither would have been able to hold their ground the way Foreman did and shove Frazier. Mac Foster?? Who the heck did her ever beat? He ran up his record on no name fighters and then when faced with his first true test he was destroyed by Jerry Quarry. Ron Lye also lost a lop side decision to Quarry and Earnie Shavers got knocked out ONE ROUND by Quarry. NONE of the above ever EARNED the right to fight Frazier! Apparently Jerry Quarry was the real puncher among the above as he cleaned out almost half of them only to be TWICED destroyed by Frazier! Lastly if Frazier really ducked big puncher why in the world did he ever fight Foreman in the first place? He didn't have to and if some of the nuts on this board were right he never would have. Frazier feared no one. As for the Foreman fight proving he could not take a punch, it really proved the opposite. Foreman was the hardest puncher of all time. Yet he couldn't keep Frazier down. Would Lennex Lewis, Joe Louis, or Jack Demspey (who got knocked out in 1 round by Gunboat Smith and out of the right by Luis Firpo) have gotten up 6 times?? I doubt it, Frazier took a better punch than any of them and a fighter of Frazier's style never even gets out of the Philly gym wars if he can't take a punch.

[mrboxer]

no he did not duck the big punchers,he fought foreman,who was the only big puncher of the era,

[DET. IRONSIDE]

He fought George Foreman twice.

Ali didn't have the balls to make that happen.

[BennyST]

The Biggest Punchers of His Era

George Foreman
Ron Lyle
Earnie Shavers
Mac Foster
Ken Norton
Sonny Liston
Cleveland Williams

From the 7 names listed above Frazier only fought Foreman. Taking into account that Foreman was a relative unknown when Frazier first fought him and was seen as a sort of tune-up fight to a rematch with Ali. Frazier himself has admitted several times in interviews that he didn't know Foreman could hit that hard.

Well? Did Frazier's promoters and managers purposely avoid matching him with the Big Hitters?Was Frazier unsure of his chin after he was floored twice by Oscar Bonavena?

Definitely! Dude only fought the biggest and best HW puncher out of them all so that shows he definitely ducked all of them and never wanted to fight anyone with a big punch.

Really, Foreman wasn't even a big puncher anyway which is the only reason Frazier fought him. He just had such a glass jaw that it made Foreman look like the biggest, hardest puncher in heavyweight history. But, fighting Foreman means nothing if you don't fight all the guys who were **** compared to him. He should have fought all of the **** ones instead of Foreman to show that he didn't duck big punchers.

I mean, what's fighting Foreman in a rematch after you've been destroyed in the first fight mean? Nothing! That's what!

[Greatest1942]

If getting Knockdown 6 times in two rounds is bad what does that make someone who gets banned from a site 6 times and keeps coming back and trolling about?

I will like to say here that anyone who would be likely to wade into Foreman had very little chance. Foreman's punches could drop anyone, that style of Frazier was suicidal against George. If he got real close then Fraziers superior infighting skills would be an advantage, but in the first fight George simply pushed him away, and made him fight at his optimum range.

Fraziers chin was okay, he did take some good punches. His style against Foreman was suicidal.