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  • boxing boy
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    #11
    Originally posted by Snopkins
    No,it couldn't have gone either way.frazier was ineffective throughout most of the fight.He won the first round and the round after he got put on his arse twice,and then went on to lose virtully every single round after that.


    bonavena outboxed and outfought him decisively.


    bonavena fought Zora folley in his 9th pro fight.He sure didn't have the amateur credentials that frazier had either.
    I'm not trying to be mean or demean you but:What fight were you watching?

    Yes,i saw Frazier get dropped twice in the 2nd round.But he won atleast 5 rounds.

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    • Snopkins
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      #12
      Aggression doesn't mean anything if it's ineffective,and frazier's aggression was just that.He tried to push bonavena back and got manhandled in the clinches.




      Watch bonavena draw frazier in @5.16



      frazier also got away with busting bonavena in the balls a number of times throughout the fight and was never once warned.


      low blows were always legal in frazier's fights.
      Last edited by Snopkins; 05-04-2010, 07:09 PM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Snopkins
        Aggression doesn't mean anything if it's ineffective,and frazier's aggression was just that.He tried to push bonavena back and got manhandled in the clinches.




        Watch bonavena draw frazier in @5.16



        frazier also got away with busting bonavena in the balls a number of times throughout the fight and was never once warned.


        low blows were always legal in frazier's fights.
        I believe Bonevena had a 20lb weight advantage on Frazier.Manhandling someone in the clinches doesn't count in the scoring of a fight.Like i said this was only Frazier's 10th pro fight,and had only been fighting about 1 year as a pro.It was a close hard fought fight that was very close.Frazier clearly wins the 2nd fight.

        Styles make fights! And most fighters fight someone who's style is a bad style for them.Ken Norton for Muhammad Ali.Randy Turpin for SRR.Bonevena for Joe Frazier.Heck,Jimmy Ellis knocked Bonevena down twice!! And Frazier,who destroyed Ellis,could not knock down Oscar! Because styles make fights!

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        • sonnyboyx2
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          #14
          Originally posted by boxing boy
          I believe Bonevena had a 20lb weight advantage on Frazier.Manhandling someone in the clinches doesn't count in the scoring of a fight.Like i said this was only Frazier's 10th pro fight,and had only been fighting about 1 year as a pro.It was a close hard fought fight that was very close.Frazier clearly wins the 2nd fight.

          Styles make fights! And most fighters fight someone who's style is a bad style for them.Ken Norton for Muhammad Ali.Randy Turpin for SRR.Bonevena for Joe Frazier.Heck,Jimmy Ellis knocked Bonevena down twice!! And Frazier,who destroyed Ellis,could not knock down Oscar! Because styles make fights!
          Frazier clearly wins the 2nd fight??????

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            #15
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
            Frazier clearly wins the 2nd fight??????
            Yes,I watched itn several times and Frazier was the clear winner.

            It was a UD!

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            • Joey Giardello
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              #16
              Oscar was a good heavyweight! and always did his country pround but every knows monzon is the king of argentina boxing and always will be!!

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                #17
                Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                Frazier clearly wins the 2nd fight??????








                Uh ....yes he did. Just because it was a tough fight doesn't mean Frazier didn't clearly win it. There is a difference.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boxing boy
                  Yes,I watched itn several times and Frazier was the clear winner.

                  It was a UD!
                  who commentated on the 2nd fight you claim to have watched?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Calilloyd
                    Uh ....yes he did. Just because it was a tough fight doesn't mean Frazier didn't clearly win it. There is a difference.
                    when and where did you watch the 2nd fight?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
                      who commentated on the 2nd fight you claim to have watched?
                      Claimed to have watched? Just because I don't remember who commentated on any fight i watched don't mean i didn't watch the fight.I could list many fights i have watched that i don't remember who called the fight.

                      Just a few examples....Ali-Chuvulo 1 and 11.Ali-Mildenburger.Foreman-Lyle.Frazier Quarry 11.Frazier-Bonevena 11.I could go on.

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