Meldrick Taylor Vs Kostya Tszyu Prime 4 Prime

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  • sonnyboyx2
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    #11
    Taylor by wide decision

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    • BennyST
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      #12
      Originally posted by Obama
      Taylor by KO. See Vince Phillips fight.
      See Phillips fight? How does that work? Philips was a big power puncher who had one of the strongest punches in that division besides Tszyu.

      A fight between Taylor and Tszyu wouldn't even look remotely like that one. Philips' greatest asset was a very strong punch along with his decent, solid skills and stamina.

      Anyway, prime Taylor was a madman with the speed of Ray Leonard but definitely not the power. In fact, he wasn't that strong a puncher in any sense.

      I see him winning a decision in his prime. Would have been a great fight and he would have taken some big punches, but Tszyu didn't have the pressure style and late fight power needed to take Taylor out and the points he would have built up would win the fight for him.

      No KO in this fight though.

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        #13
        Originally posted by poet682006
        I agree with that but......

        You don't have to have power to be good offensively: Speed and volume do just as well.

        Poet
        Alright. I don't really have access to too much Taylor, I just can't find his fights anywhere, so I'm going off of Chavez I here. I think everyone can agree that was his best performance. In the sixth or seventh round, he was already hurting Chavez. I don't care how many punches you're throwing, you don't hurt Julio Cesar Chavez without a bit of pop.

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          #14
          Originally posted by AmericanYeti
          Alright. I don't really have access to too much Taylor, I just can't find his fights anywhere, so I'm going off of Chavez I here. I think everyone can agree that was his best performance. In the sixth or seventh round, he was already hurting Chavez. I don't care how many punches you're throwing, you don't hurt Julio Cesar Chavez without a bit of pop.
          I agree it was a magnificent performance by Taylor albeit one that contributed to his ultimate early demise as a top fighter. While I'm not saying Meldrick was a complete featherfist along the lines of Maxie Rosenbloom, he certainly wasn't known as someone who packed even average power. The thing is punches, even relatively light punches, add up if you land enough of them. That's why they talk about fighters being stopped late from an accumulation of punches. The individual punch may not hurt a Chavez, but the total effect of dozens of those shots may very well. By the 6th or 7th round Chavez had certainly eaten a lot of Taylor's punches, enough to the point where the accumulated effects had an impact.

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          • CarlosG815
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            #15
            Originally posted by poet682006
            I agree it was a magnificent performance by Taylor albeit one that contributed to his ultimate early demise as a top fighter. While I'm not saying Meldrick was a complete featherfist along the lines of Maxie Rosenbloom, he certainly wasn't known as someone who packed even average power. The thing is punches, even relatively light punches, add up if you land enough of them. That's why they talk about fighters being stopped late from an accumulation of punches. The individual punch may not hurt a Chavez, but the total effect of dozens of those shots may very well. By the 6th or 7th round Chavez had certainly eaten a lot of Taylor's punches, enough to the point where the accumulated effects had an impact.

            Poet
            Chavez didn't look hurt to me in that fight. He was just outmatched by a more skilled fighter. If Chavez had less heart and a weaker chin he'd have given up like Roberto Duran vs SRL.

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              #16
              Originally posted by AmericanYeti
              Listen, man. I want to like you, I really do, if only because Anchorman is my favorite comedy ever. But everything you've said can only be matched in idiocy by your next statement. Meldrick Taylor had pop, don't think otherwise. He was one of the most gifted offensive fighters in history and that doesn't happen without power. He wasn't a huge hitter, but he could definitely ****.

              Anyway, Meldrick demolishes Tszyu in a one-sided boxing display. I can see him landing six, seven punch combinations on the relatively sluggish Tszyu.
              you dont have to have power to be gifted offensivly lol.pernell is a top 15 atg and he had no power.having pop is not power.mayweather has pop,but he's not a power puncher by any stretch of the imagination.taylor had about 10 k.os when he fought chavez and alot of those were late t.k.o's.he was gifted offensivley with speed not power and he had short arm reach.he was what you would call feather fisted.according to boxrec he has a career k.o% of 42%.i think it was all downhill after chavez I but his k.o ratio was similar prior to that fight.so if you dont call a an under 40% k.o ratio feather fisted,i dont know what is

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                #17
                Originally posted by AmericanYeti
                Alright. I don't really have access to too much Taylor, I just can't find his fights anywhere, so I'm going off of Chavez I here. I think everyone can agree that was his best performance. In the sixth or seventh round, he was already hurting Chavez. I don't care how many punches you're throwing, you don't hurt Julio Cesar Chavez without a bit of pop.
                chavez was far from hurt in that fight.i didnt see anything close to him being so much as stunned by a punch.he took a helluva lot of them,but he was far from hurt.i cant even say he was really being outclassed as taylor ended up much worse for wear.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by CarlosG815
                  Chavez didn't look hurt to me in that fight. He was just outmatched by a more skilled fighter. If Chavez had less heart and a weaker chin he'd have given up like Roberto Duran vs SRL.
                  Even with a weaker chin I seriously doubt Chavez is getting KOed by Taylor.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by murmagic
                    You do you lads got in this one?
                    I would say Taylor by decision or late KO. His hands would be way too fast

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                    • Walt Liquor
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                      #20
                      wow, 0 love for kostya.

                      I see taylor winning a decision, but lets not count tszyu out. dude had a laser right hand that could get in at any time and he fared pretty well against boxers. power to hurt kostya was important and he was a damn good stalker.

                      luckily for taylor in this fight, he can take a punch

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