Is Roberto Duran A TOP 10 ATG?

[Southpaw Great]

If so why, if not why?

[wmute]

Quite possibly.

He is the only fighter from the last 30 years I would put in there. He has longevity, versatility, toughness, skills... everything you could ask for.

His reign of terror and some of the wins he had later on are true ATG stuff.

[Calilloyd]

Quite possibly.
He is the only fighter from the last 30 years I would put in there. He has longevity, versatility, toughness, skills... everything you could ask for.

His reign of terror and some of the wins he had later on are true ATG stuff.

Possibly? I would like to see your top 10. That must be some list. And to answer the TS question, yes. In part because of his great prime and also what he was able to do out of prime. How far his skills carried him in higher weights. The latter part is why I get irritated when people compare Manny Pacquiao to Duran in terms of where they rank. Duran fought at a high level into his late 30's.

[McGrain]

Borderline.

I have him at 9 or 10.

[GJC]

His in mine.
No matter how you do your list, be it on resume, longeveity, picking up titles going up in weights (don't forget he leaped Junior Light Welter) or dominating/clearing a weight class Duran ticks every box.

[wmute]

Possibly? I would like to see your top 10. That must be some list. And to answer the TS question, yes. In part because of his great prime and also what he was able to do out of prime. How far his skills carried him in higher weights. The latter part is why I get irritated when people compare Manny Pacquiao to Duran in terms of where they rank. Duran fought at a high level into his late 30's.

He is my top 10, but I wrote possibly, because when you have to pick only 10 fighters out of more than 100 years in the sport, you might be possibly find 11 or 12 that you would be comfortable putting there, someone might put Duran in the 10, someone might have him at 11.... you know what I am saying?

Let's try, in random order are here listed fighters that would make my top 10 (today and at the current state of my boxing knowledge, I reserve the right to change my mind on a whim or at the acquisition of new information).

Ray Robinson
Ezzard Charles
Bob Fitzsimmons
Harry Greb
Joe Gans
Benny Leonard
Roberto Duran
Barney Ross
Henry Armstrong
Sam Langford

before anyone points out that I am biased towards alltimers, let me point out that this is my list of "greats" not of "best fighters", so achivements have to factor in, and modern fighters pay fight in the modern pro boxing industry, which simply does not really allow them to be "great" in terms of acheivement.

if we have to talk about best, I can't even make a top 20, because Leonard, Whitaker, Jones, Mayweather and many others would become relevant to the discussion.

[Calilloyd]

He is my top 10, but I wrote possibly, because when you have to pick only 10 fighters out of more than 100 years in the sport, you might be possibly find 11 or 12 that you would be comfortable putting there, someone might put Duran in the 10, someone might have him at 11.... you know what I am saying?

Let's try, in random order are here listed fighters that would make my top 10 (today and at the current state of my boxing knowledge, I reserve the right to change my mind on a whim or at the acquisition of new information).

Ray Robinson
Ezzard Charles
Bob Fitzsimmons
Harry Greb
Joe Gans
Benny Leonard
Roberto Duran
Barney Ross
Henry Armstrong
Sam Langford

before anyone points out that I am biased towards alltimers, let me point out that this is my list of "greats" not of "best fighters", so achivements have to factor in, and modern fighters pay fight in the modern pro boxing industry, which simply does not really allow them to be "great" in terms of acheivement.

if we have to talk about best, I can't even make a top 20, because Leonard, Whitaker, Jones, Mayweather and many others would become relevant to the discussion.

Now that you pointed that out it does become more difficult when you really analyze the number of fighters that could be there. It's all subjective but Duran makes my top 10.

[Calilloyd]

He is my top 10, but I wrote possibly, because when you have to pick only 10 fighters out of more than 100 years in the sport, you might be possibly find 11 or 12 that you would be comfortable putting there, someone might put Duran in the 10, someone might have him at 11.... you know what I am saying?

Let's try, in random order are here listed fighters that would make my top 10 (today and at the current state of my boxing knowledge, I reserve the right to change my mind on a whim or at the acquisition of new information).

Ray Robinson
Ezzard Charles
Bob Fitzsimmons
Harry Greb
Joe Gans
Benny Leonard
Roberto Duran
Barney Ross
Henry Armstrong
Sam Langford

before anyone points out that I am biased towards alltimers, let me point out that this is my list of "greats" not of "best fighters", so achivements have to factor in, and modern fighters pay fight in the modern pro boxing industry, which simply does not really allow them to be "great" in terms of acheivement.

if we have to talk about best, I can't even make a top 20, because Leonard, Whitaker, Jones, Mayweather and many others would become relevant to the discussion.

Now that you pointed that out it does become more difficult when you really analyze the number of fighters that could be there. It's all subjective but Duran makes my top 10.

[carlos slim]

**** no unless you only talk about him as a lightweight....if you wanna talk about him in the 80s then you have to bring up all his losses in big fights, ray leonard beating him after he beat barkley and the fact thomas hearns made 2 minute pancit out of him....80s=up and down career....

[CarlosG815]

He is my top 10, but I wrote possibly, because when you have to pick only 10 fighters out of more than 100 years in the sport, you might be possibly find 11 or 12 that you would be comfortable putting there, someone might put Duran in the 10, someone might have him at 11.... you know what I am saying?

Let's try, in random order are here listed fighters that would make my top 10 (today and at the current state of my boxing knowledge, I reserve the right to change my mind on a whim or at the acquisition of new information).

Ray Robinson
Ezzard Charles
Bob Fitzsimmons
Harry Greb
Joe Gans
Benny Leonard
Roberto Duran
Barney Ross
Henry Armstrong
Sam Langford

before anyone points out that I am biased towards alltimers, let me point out that this is my list of "greats" not of "best fighters", so achivements have to factor in, and modern fighters pay fight in the modern pro boxing industry, which simply does not really allow them to be "great" in terms of acheivement.

if we have to talk about best, I can't even make a top 20, because Leonard, Whitaker, Jones, Mayweather and many others would become relevant to the discussion.

How is Henry Armstrong below Roberto Duran, Bob Fitzsimmons and Harry Greb?

Just curious why he is so low as he is arguably the greatest fighter of all time.