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  • Who do you rank as the greater fighter Mickey Walker or Thomas Hearns?

    Who was greater?

  • #2
    No dout. Micky Walker, didn't even have to think about that one.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JerseySugar View Post
      No dout. Micky Walker, didn't even have to think about that one.
      I am edging towards hearns, he was a 5 weight world champion! and beat the likes of benitez, duran, cuevas, the unbeaten virgil hill, and got the draw with ray leonard that should of been a win! I rate walker very high he was a great fighter who also moved up the weights, but i just rate hearns that little bit better

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Joey Giardello View Post
        I am edging towards hearns, he was a 5 weight world champion! and beat the likes of benitez, duran, cuevas, the unbeaten virgil hill, and got the draw with ray leonard that should of been a win! I rate walker very high he was a great fighter who also moved up the weights, but i just rate hearns that little bit better
        He was a 5 weight titlelist. Hearns never unified one division.

        If greatness was judged on resume of wins, Fritize Zivic and Jimmy Bivins would be Top 25 ATG fighters, but they aren't.

        Herans just can't compete with Walker achievements imo.

        Walker was undisputed Welterweight Champion, Undisputed Midlleweight Champion. Beat TWO LHW Champions in non title bouts and was a top 10 ranked HW Contender and took future Champion Jack Sharkey to a draw.

        That is amazing, and Walker was doing this while being a blown up 170lb'er. Walker was a world class elite fighter from Welterweight To Heavyweight, that is just insane.....Can you imagine Andre Berto evetually going up to HW and getting a draw with David Haye? Never in a million years.

        And Walker's resume of wins is also pretty incredible......Pete Latzo, Lew Tendler, Mike McTigue, Tiger Flowers, Tommy Milligan, Paul Berlenbach, Ace Hudkins, Leo Lomski, Johnny Risko, King Levinsky, Paulino Uzcudun, and Maxie Rosenbloom.

        Mickey Walker>>>>>>>Thomas Hearns. All Day

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JerseySugar View Post
          He was a 5 weight titlelist. Hearns never unified one division.

          If greatness was judged on resume of wins, Fritize Zivic and Jimmy Bivins would be Top 25 ATG fighters, but they aren't.

          Herans just can't compete with Walker achievements imo.

          Walker was undisputed Welterweight Champion, Undisputed Midlleweight Champion. Beat TWO LHW Champions in non title bouts and was a top 10 ranked HW Contender and took future Champion Jack Sharkey to a draw.

          That is amazing, and Walker was doing this while being a blown up 170lb'er. Walker was a world class elite fighter from Welterweight To Heavyweight, that is just insane.....Can you imagine Andre Berto evetually going up to HW and getting a draw with David Haye? Never in a million years.

          And Walker's resume of wins is also pretty incredible......Pete Latzo, Lew Tendler, Mike McTigue, Tiger Flowers, Tommy Milligan, Paul Berlenbach, Ace Hudkins, Leo Lomski, Johnny Risko, King Levinsky, Paulino Uzcudun, and Maxie Rosenbloom.

          Mickey Walker>>>>>>>Thomas Hearns. All Day
          Mickey walker should of only ever been welterweight champion, his title win over tiger at middleweight is one of the worst decsions in history they stole the title off tiger, his resume is no match for tommy hearns resume, yes he may of got a draw with sharkey, but hearns done the unthinkable when he knocked out all time great roberto duran which is also insane! hearns also become the 4th ranked cruserweight in the world and become ibo champion at the weight which takes some doing! as sharkey would only of been a cruserweight in hearns day . Hearns was also once ranked the number 1 pound for pound fighter in the world! something not even many all time greats can even say.

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          • #6
            Walker by 20-30 spots.

            Walker is still the only ex-welterweight champion to be ranked in the HW division, I believe. His draw with Sharkey, who makes my top 40 all time middlweighs, is possibly the single greatest p4p result in the history of the sport. He beat better guys.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by McGrain View Post
              Walker by 20-30 spots.

              Walker is still the only ex-welterweight champion to be ranked in the HW division, I believe. His draw with Sharkey, who makes my top 40 all time middlweighs, is possibly the single greatest p4p result in the history of the sport. He beat better guys.
              Sharkey was a heavyweight so i dont know how he is makeing your top 40 all time midleweights list Tommy Hearns knockout over roberto duran was one of the most devasting performances in boxing history! And walker didnt beat sharkey he got a draw! when walker fans talk about the sharkey fight they talk about it like walker won! which he did not!! Former lightweight title challenger sam langford went up to heavyweight and knocked out harry wills that is the single greatest p4p result in history! Also i think hearns has the better resume and back in 1981 hearns had the title of best pound for poundb fighter in the world, and he won more titles in different weight classes than walker!
              Last edited by Joey Giardello; 04-25-2010, 09:49 AM.

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              • #8
                Yeah, I meant to say HW. But regardless of the opposition, finding his way from the WW title to the HW rankings is an exceptional achievment.

                I wonder if Hearns could have achieved the same thing given the chance? I don't think Ring ever ranked him at CW, but most of the guys Walker didn't beat that many guys who were bigger than the then CW limit...Hearns always had the vulnerability above light-middle, but he might have been able to box his way into the HW rankings. I guess we'll never know.

                Regardless, I'd rank Walker above Hearns at WW, MW, LHW and of course his achievments at HW outstrip anything Hearns did at CW. He beat more HOF fighters, travelled further in terms of weights tackled, beat more greats. The argument for ranking Walker below Hearns is honestly non-existant in my opinion.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by McGrain View Post
                  Yeah, I meant to say HW. But regardless of the opposition, finding his way from the WW title to the HW rankings is an exceptional achievment.

                  I wonder if Hearns could have achieved the same thing given the chance? I don't think Ring ever ranked him at CW, but most of the guys Walker didn't beat that many guys who were bigger than the then CW limit...Hearns always had the vulnerability above light-middle, but he might have been able to box his way into the HW rankings. I guess we'll never know.

                  Regardless, I'd rank Walker above Hearns at WW, MW, LHW and of course his achievments at HW outstrip anything Hearns did at CW. He beat more HOF fighters, travelled further in terms of weights tackled, beat more greats. The argument for ranking Walker below Hearns is honestly non-existant in my opinion.
                  Hearns was rated as high as number 5 by the ring at cruserweight when he was ibo champion at the weight. I disagree when you say walker beat the better fighters i think hearns beat the better fighters! at welter, lightmiddle, middle and lightheavy the only 3 fighters who could beat him were sugar ray, barkley and hagler, as a lightmiddle hearns was never beat! and some people like to rate hearns as the best ever at lightmiddleweight!. Walker was beaten at welterweight by pete latzo, joe dundee, dave shade and georgie ward, all good but not great fighters and they were just his welterweight defeats, also walker didnt pick up as many belts as hearns! walker should of only really been welterweight champion, the middleweight tiitle was stole off tiger flowers by the judges!
                  Last edited by Joey Giardello; 04-25-2010, 03:38 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Hearns beat notable competition from WW to LHW. He didn't beat anyone worth a damn at CW. Walker did it from WW to HW. Edge Walker.

                    By division resumes:

                    WW: Walker > Hearns
                    MW: Walker > Hearns
                    LHW: Close

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