The greater Leonard?

[Jim Jeffries]

Since I am unable to defend myself in another thread (due to a particularly childish and rather cowardly poster having me on ignore,) I would like to pose a question that led to the creation of that thread.

Ray Leonard is a great fighter, without question. I just don't believe that his career had the longevity to warrant top 15 ATG. With a total of only 40 fights, the last 3 of which were fairly meaningless, I believe there are at least 15 greater fighters, Benny Leonard being one of them.

Any thoughts?

[krispy kreme]

Longevity might have been the only issue with Leonard, because of his constant retirements and slips into depression even when he won his biggest fights. But in this case, I think it is more quality over quantity. Leonard had an illustrious career.

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Top 20 ATGs did not "retire" to avoid rematches.

[StarshipTrooper]

Since I am unable to defend myself in another thread (due to a particularly childish and rather cowardly poster having me on ignore,) I would like to pose a question that led to the creation of that thread.

It wouldn't happen to be Rolling Anti-Semite would it?

Poet

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would it be the ***** who just tried to give me bad karma for the comment I made above?

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ah no that one would be "Snopkins"

[StarshipTrooper]

would it be the ***** who just tried to give me bad karma for the comment I made above?

God only knows there are plenty of bitches floating around Boxing Scene

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

ah no that one would be "Snopkins"

Ah! The King of "grey" K

Poet

[Titlist]

I rate Leonard higher. He beat more world champions and, even though he didn't win titles in as many divisions, he reigned as champion for a longer period of time.

[bklynboy]

I rate Leonard higher. He beat more world champions and, even though he didn't win titles in as many divisions, he reigned as champion for a longer period of time.

SRL's great wins were Benitez, Duran, Hearns & Hagler. With all due respect how does that even begin to compare with SRR? Both had great names - SRL maybe a little bit better -- but SRR cleaned out the welterweight and middleweight division for 5 years w/o a loss fighting 50+ times.

Are Benitez, Duran, Hearns and Hagler better opposition than Fullmer, Basilio, Graziano, Randy Turpin, (Armstrong was past-prime)? Tough call.