Muhammad Ali vs The Supersized Heavyweights

[sonnyboyx2]

Often on this forum i read topics where members claim Muhammad Ali was overated, Lewis vs Ali would be a 50/50 fight, The Klitschko brothers would be to big for him and to powerful.. lets take a look at their careers and make our case:

Wlad Klitschko - 6ft 6in Vitali - 6ft 7ins Lennox Lewis 6ft 5ins

Fighters Ali fought who measured up to the Super-sized heavies of today in height and power.
George Foreman - 6ft 4in + power
Ron Lyle 6ft 31/12in + power
Earnie Shavers power
Mac Foster 6ft 4in + power
Cleveland Williams 6ft 4in + power
Buster Mathis 6ft 4in + power + skills
Alvin Lewis 6ft 3in
Joe Bugner 6ft 5in
Ernie Terrell 6ft 7in
Ken Norton 6ft 4in + power
Chuck Wepner 6ft 7in

Fighters The Super-sized fought who measure up to Muhammad Ali in skills or height - Ali was 6ft 4in

Michael Grant - 6ft 6in
Henry Akinwande 6ft 7in
Shannon Briggs 6ft 5in
Tyrell Biggs 6ft 5in
Tony Tucker 6ft 5in
Jameel McCline 6ft 6in
Cory Sanders 6ft 5in + power - no skill

Height & weigh are completely meaningless it is skill and brutality which count..

Ali was on a completely different level skillwise as the Klitschko brothers & Lennox Lewis and Ali had zero trouble beating fighters who was just as big & tall as those 3 super-sized heavyweights... Muhammad Ali used speed & skills along with a lightening fast jab to beat Ernie Terrell to a pulp leaving his face looking like a plate of meat yet Terrell was taller than the super-sized

Ali took bombs on the chin from Foreman, Lyle, Norton, Williams, Shavers, Frazier, Foster all of who punched far harder than any of the super-sized - Muhammad Ali was never knocked-out, yet Lewis & Wladimir have been poleaxed by mediocre journeymen.

Ali punched hard enough to be the only man to knock out iron-chinned Oscar Bonavena & George Foreman.

The Super-sized are vastly overated in power as they repeatedly struggled to KO opponents other fighters KOd easily..

The argument cannot be made that the super-sized are "HEAVIER" as weight is a hindrance.. in the case of Lennox Lewis he looked a world beater when weighing 225lbs against Ruddock & Mason yet looked nothing like that when weighing 235 - 255lbs and repeatedly struggling or getting KOd by opponents

Both Klitschko brothers have black marks against them as likely steroid users.

please do not call into question the height and weights i have stated, i do not go by Boxrec for my statistics as they are always incorrect... do your homework and you will see that i am correct.

Lets here your case:

[Rolling Stone]

whenever i need a laugh i go to boxrec and print out Wlad and Vitali's resume

[Rolling Stone]

i was going to question a few of your height stats as boxrec has Ernie Terrel and Ali 6'6" and 6'3" respectively but i'll take your word for it

[sonnyboyx2]

i was going to question a few of your height stats as boxrec has Ernie Terrel and Ali 6'6" and 6'3" respectively but i'll take your word for it

state your case on boxing not that guy was 1ins taller or 1ins shorter... both Terrell & Wepner was taller than the super-sized

[EzzardFan]

Often on this forum i read topics where members claim Muhammad Ali was overated, Lewis vs Ali would be a 50/50 fight, The Klitschko brothers would be to big for him and to powerful.. lets take a look at their careers and make our case:

Wlad Klitschko - 6ft 6in Vitali - 6ft 7ins Lennox Lewis 6ft 5ins

Fighters Ali fought who measured up to the Super-sized heavies of today in height and power.
George Foreman - 6ft 4in + power
Ron Lyle 6ft 31/12in + power
Earnie Shavers power
Mac Foster 6ft 4in + power
Cleveland Williams 6ft 4in + power
Buster Mathis 6ft 4in + power + skills
Alvin Lewis 6ft 3in
Joe Bugner 6ft 5in
Ernie Terrell 6ft 7in
Ken Norton 6ft 4in + power
Chuck Wepner 6ft 7in

Fighters The Super-sized fought who measure up to Muhammad Ali in skills or height - Ali was 6ft 4in

Michael Grant - 6ft 6in
Henry Akinwande 6ft 7in
Shannon Briggs 6ft 5in
Tyrell Biggs 6ft 5in
Tony Tucker 6ft 5in
Jameel McCline 6ft 6in
Cory Sanders 6ft 5in + power - no skill

Height & weigh are completely meaningless it is skill and brutality which count..

Ali was on a completely different level skillwise as the Klitschko brothers & Lennox Lewis and Ali had zero trouble beating fighters who was just as big & tall as those 3 super-sized heavyweights... Muhammad Ali used speed & skills along with a lightening fast jab to beat Ernie Terrell to a pulp leaving his face looking like a plate of meat yet Terrell was taller than the super-sized

Ali took bombs on the chin from Foreman, Lyle, Norton, Williams, Shavers, Frazier, Foster all of who punched far harder than any of the super-sized - Muhammad Ali was never knocked-out, yet Lewis & Wladimir have been poleaxed by mediocre journeymen.

Ali punched hard enough to be the only man to knock out iron-chinned Oscar Bonavena & George Foreman.

The Super-sized are vastly overated in power as they repeatedly struggled to KO opponents other fighters KOd easily..

The argument cannot be made that the super-sized are "HEAVIER" as weight is a hindrance.. in the case of Lennox Lewis he looked a world beater when weighing 225lbs against Ruddock & Mason yet looked nothing like that when weighing 235 - 255lbs and repeatedly struggling or getting KOd by opponents

Both Klitschko brothers have black marks against them as likely steroid users.

please do not call into question the height and weights i have stated, i do not go by Boxrec for my statistics as they are always incorrect... do your homework and you will see that i am correct.

Lets here your case:

Good post. I'm fully with you on this one.

[Rolling Stone]

height has **** all to do with anything.......Ali would've knocked out the glass chinned Wlad and Lewis and he would've made that Coward Vitali quit.....

neither Lewis, or the Klits punch harder than Foreman, Shavers or Liston and Ali took bombs from all 3 of em......Ali vs any of these 3 will be a lopsided massacre of epic proportions.......Ali will put a tremendous beating on all three of them

hell.....Foreman will KO Lewis, Klit and Wlad in the first round

[Holtol]

I think Prime Ali handles just about everyone. Its not like the big heavy weights of today would enjoy any reach or much height on him. And you cant say anyone would have a punchers chance on him. I think Ali can ud any boxer in history in his prime.

[The_Demon]

Alis beats them with his speed and footwork,they wouldnt be able to handle it

[GJC]

Good post Sonny,nice reminder that big HW's are not a novelty.
The Chagaev win seemed to get a lot of people excited for Wlad but I'm struggling to think of any of the fighters you listed that Ali beat who wouldn't beat Chagaev on that showing.

[BillyBoxing]

state your case on boxing not that guy was 1ins taller or 1ins shorter... both Terrell & Wepner was taller than the super-sized

Yeah,but Terrell and Wepner were slow bums while Wlad and Lewis are athletic and skilled.

70s fighters are overrated,it's my point.