Mike McCallum vs Bernard Hopkins: who do you rank higher on the ATG list?

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  • rsf
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    #11
    Originally posted by Hellboy
    The Watson fight is a great fight


    yeah the watson fight is a really good fight i came away thinking and i mean no disrespect to watson that i had just seen a master in with a pupil

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      #12
      Originally posted by rsf
      yeah the watson fight is a really good fight i came away thinking and i mean no disrespect to watson that i had just seen a master in with a pupil
      Yeah, McCallum was on a different level to Watson, no doubt about that. How do you think Benn would of done against McCallum back then. I think McCallum by late ko.

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        #13
        i love benn but at middle which i think the mccallum/watson and only a year after watson beat benn i think benn gets saved by ref at some point after the 7th

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          #14
          Originally posted by rsf
          i love benn but at middle which i think the mccallum/watson and only a year after watson beat benn i think benn gets saved by ref at some point after the 7th
          I could see this outcome happening

          According to Benns autobiography the winner of Benn/Watson was scheduled to fight McCallum, which Watson did.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Hellboy
            I could see this outcome happening

            According to Benns autobiography the winner of Benn/Watson was scheduled to fight McCallum, which Watson did.
            i think then that benn got lucky in defeat,can you imagine if benn had gone into a fight with mccallum with the same game plan as he did the watson fight

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              #16
              mike mccallum all day. hopkins has been a great fighter but mccallums resume is just too strong for me to pick hopkins over him. and the styles make fights thing doesnt really apply since mccallum was arguably the most well rounded fighter in history and could compete with anyone in any type of fight.

              look at the mans resume:

              julian jackson KO
              donald curry KO
              milton mccrory KO
              michael watson KO
              ayub kalule KO
              sumbu kalambay points
              steve collins points
              james toney points (he won the second fight)

              and thats just of the top of my head, i think hes got one or two more names on his resume.

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                #17
                Originally posted by #1Assassin
                mike mccallum all day. hopkins has been a great fighter but mccallums resume is just too strong for me to pick hopkins over him. and the styles make fights thing doesnt really apply since mccallum was arguably the most well rounded fighter in history and could compete with anyone in any type of fight.

                look at the mans resume:

                julian jackson KO
                donald curry KO
                milton mccrory KO
                michael watson KO
                ayub kalule KO
                sumbu kalambay points
                steve collins points
                james toney points (he won the second fight)

                and thats just of the top of my head, i think hes got one or two more names on his resume.
                Excellent post

                McCallum was clearly robbed in his second fight with Toney, Toney was the bigger name so he got the nod. Toney would get the same treatment in the first Sam Peter fight as well.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by rsf
                  i think then that benn got lucky in defeat,can you imagine if benn had gone into a fight with mccallum with the same game plan as he did the watson fight
                  Benn fought a dumb fight that day, thats for sure. He was too caught up in his own hype of being a ko machine and ended up getting koed by a jab.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by #1Assassin
                    mike mccallum all day. hopkins has been a great fighter but mccallums resume is just too strong for me to pick hopkins over him. and the styles make fights thing doesnt really apply since mccallum was arguably the most well rounded fighter in history and could compete with anyone in any type of fight.

                    look at the mans resume:

                    julian jackson KO
                    donald curry KO
                    milton mccrory KO
                    michael watson KO
                    ayub kalule KO
                    sumbu kalambay points
                    steve collins points
                    james toney points (he won the second fight)

                    and thats just of the top of my head, i think hes got one or two more names on his resume.
                    checked it out on boxrec and indeed i missed a few names:

                    herol graham points
                    jeff harding points
                    luigi minchillo KO (went the distance with hearns and duran)
                    david braxton KO (decent kronk fighter, 35-1 at the time)

                    look at that ****ing resume, both posts. and watching him in action hes even more impressive. they dont make fighter like that anymore, even hopkins falls short.

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                      #20
                      I think Hopkins has achieved more, but it's close.

                      Head to head.... Hopkins has never been in with anyone as good as the body snatcher. (except Jones of course). What a fight this would have been.

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